hahaha, i love that clip bfriley

Come on…if Frank Costanza says it’s a bad trade, it’s a bad trade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8

How come the Pirates never get heat for letting Buhner go?
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That’s a question I’ve asked on several occasions. Couple of times here, as a matter of fact.

How come the Pirates never get heat for letting Buhner go?

December 20, 1984: Buhner was traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Dale Berra and Alfonso Pulido to the New York Yankees for Tim Foli, Steve Kemp and cash.

Besides, Buhner was a RH bat, of which the Yanks had plenty of; Slaught, Henderson, Randolph, Winfield & Clark. The Yanks wanted a LH power bat, which they thought they were getting in Phelps.

Anyway, Buhner didn’t become a FT starter until 1991, some 3 years after the trade was made, so if he didn’t go in the Phelps trade, he probably would’ve went in another trade.

ship him off to another team and he becomes a good player ie Jay Buener.
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Jay Buhner? Um…he was a power hitter. How could you confuse Brett Gardner — he of the .750 MiLB OPS — with a power hitter?

Give this guy a break Clueless Joe is playing yo-yo with hios batting position and playing time. The Yankees are very guilty of this latley where they give the young talent no time to become better and then when they give them the one chance they do so-so and then the orginaization goes “see he sucks” and ship him off to another team and he becomes a good player ie Jay Buener. The Yanks will never win a championship doing this you need youth to win a World Series, that is why they have not one one in 8 years and counting.
Would you suggest we get rid of Texeria he is batting .220?

I really, really, like the guy. But, he needs to start playing more like Brett Butler and less like Jason Tyner…
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Given MiL numbers, he’s more like Tyner than Butler;

BB:.338 .461/.452
JT:.300 .365/.353

BG:.291 .389/.385

I really, really, like the guy. But, he needs to start playing more like Brett Butler and less like Jason Tyner…

While I’m certainly no big fan of Gardner’s — if it looks like a 4th OF and has MiLB stats that look like a 4th OF, chances are it’s a 4th OF — I won’t give up on him this soon. He still deserves a bit more time since, after all, it’s only April 28th.

Having said that, I’m pretty sure that those of us who view him as a 4th OF will be vindicated. He’s just not nearly good enough offensively to get AB’s. If a fast kid can’t get on base with any regularity, his speed is practically useless. Carlos Gomez or Wily Taveras (both of whom are better than Gardner, unfortunately) seem to bear that out.