Gardner Joins 50/65 Club
Posted by Steve L. on April 28th, 2009 · Comments (10)
Via Baseball-Reference.com, Yankees, since 1973, through last night’s game, where they had an OPS+ <= 50 and PA >= 65 in their post-1972 Yankees career:
Rk Player OPS+ PA From To Ages 1 Paul Zuvella -15 93 1986 1987 27-28 2 Wil Nieves -5 76 2005 2007 27-29 3 Albe. Gonzalez 5 73 2007 2008 24-25 4 Rex Hudler 12 66 1984 1985 23-24 5 Brian Doyle 18 171 1978 1980 23-25 6 Johnny Callison 21 142 1973 1973 34-34 7 Brad Gulden 32 108 1979 1980 23-24 8 Morgan Ensberg 34 80 2008 2008 32-32 9 Mike Fischlin 35 116 1986 1986 30-30 10 Todd Greene 36 100 2001 2001 30-30 11 Damaso Garcia 36 82 1978 1979 23-24 12 Scott Bradley 40 73 1984 1985 24-25 13 Johnny Oates 40 95 1980 1981 34-35 14 Ed Brinkman 40 68 1975 1975 33-33 15 Hal Lanier 40 90 1973 1973 30-30 16 Andy Fox 42 259 1996 1997 25-26 17 Jerry Narron 44 136 1979 1979 23-23 18 Jimmy Wynn 44 92 1977 1977 35-35 19 Juan Espino 46 78 1982 1986 26-30 20 Scott Pose 47 96 1997 1997 30-30 21 Brett Gardner 48 206 2008 2009 24-25 22 Tony Womack 50 351 2005 2005 35-35
Worse than Womack. Ouch.
While I’m certainly no big fan of Gardner’s — if it looks like a 4th OF and has MiLB stats that look like a 4th OF, chances are it’s a 4th OF — I won’t give up on him this soon. He still deserves a bit more time since, after all, it’s only April 28th.
Having said that, I’m pretty sure that those of us who view him as a 4th OF will be vindicated. He’s just not nearly good enough offensively to get AB’s. If a fast kid can’t get on base with any regularity, his speed is practically useless. Carlos Gomez or Wily Taveras (both of whom are better than Gardner, unfortunately) seem to bear that out.
I really, really, like the guy. But, he needs to start playing more like Brett Butler and less like Jason Tyner…
I really, really, like the guy. But, he needs to start playing more like Brett Butler and less like Jason Tyner…
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Given MiL numbers, he’s more like Tyner than Butler;
BB:.338 .461/.452
JT:.300 .365/.353
BG:.291 .389/.385
Give this guy a break Clueless Joe is playing yo-yo with hios batting position and playing time. The Yankees are very guilty of this latley where they give the young talent no time to become better and then when they give them the one chance they do so-so and then the orginaization goes “see he sucks” and ship him off to another team and he becomes a good player ie Jay Buener. The Yanks will never win a championship doing this you need youth to win a World Series, that is why they have not one one in 8 years and counting.
Would you suggest we get rid of Texeria he is batting .220?
ship him off to another team and he becomes a good player ie Jay Buener.
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Jay Buhner? Um…he was a power hitter. How could you confuse Brett Gardner — he of the .750 MiLB OPS — with a power hitter?
Besides, Buhner was a RH bat, of which the Yanks had plenty of; Slaught, Henderson, Randolph, Winfield & Clark. The Yanks wanted a LH power bat, which they thought they were getting in Phelps.
Anyway, Buhner didn’t become a FT starter until 1991, some 3 years after the trade was made, so if he didn’t go in the Phelps trade, he probably would’ve went in another trade.
How come the Pirates never get heat for letting Buhner go?
December 20, 1984: Buhner was traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Dale Berra and Alfonso Pulido to the New York Yankees for Tim Foli, Steve Kemp and cash.
How come the Pirates never get heat for letting Buhner go?
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That’s a question I’ve asked on several occasions. Couple of times here, as a matter of fact.
Come on…if Frank Costanza says it’s a bad trade, it’s a bad trade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8
hahaha, i love that clip bfriley