WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 5/14/09
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Love the win last night, but Steve I have a request. Swish is just in a terrible funk right now (something like 16 K’s in his last 30 at bats)…I think he could really use one of your posts on him to help turn his slump around
I’d comment on Swisher’s failures but the Swisher fans would only jump all over me about him playing banged up after being HBP recently…
Haha, fair enough!
Steve Lombardi wrote:
Hey Steve,
Swish sure can use the pep talk.. he is killing me .. I have him in my roto league and if he continues his KKKKK way… I am afraid its the wavier wire for him…. After all I am no Brain Cashman.. I demand performance!!.. LOL
the Swisher fans would only jump all over me about him playing banged up after being HBP recently…
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What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, no? How many times have I had to hear about Derek Jeter post-Daniel Cabrera beaning? So far this year, Jeter looks to be just as decrepit as he did in the first half of last year. His bat is SLOOOOOOOWWWW.
speaking of Jeter, he should go on the DL if he cant swing the bat cause of his oblique….at least we could call up miranda and have a bat off the bench that can pinch hit
Corey wrote:
Agreed, but for some reason the Yanks have always been slow to DL guys. I vaguely remember the same thing happening last year where Posada lingered on the bench, unable to play, for several days before they DL’ed him the first time.
Hey Steve,
I was wondering if anyone has done a study on the amount of players who went on the DL after they played in the WBC?
There sure seems to be plenty of guys who are dropping like flies this year….
Hey Steve,
Swish sure can use the pep talk.. he is killing me .. I have him in my roto league and if he continues his KKKKK way… I am afraid its the wavier wire for him…. After all I am no Brain Cashman.. I demand performance!!.. LOL
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I wouldn’t depend on Swisher to be a clutch fantasy player for you, especially if BA is a stat. Still having him on your team is more of a reflection of your poor fantasy ownership, not Cashman’s team-building skills.
YankCrank wrote:
Why YankCrank… Exactly what do you mean?..
Sounds like a bit of MAN LOVE your displaying for the BOY WONDER?… Or are you a member of the Cashmans fan club?..
And as far as my team building skills well Swish was doing just fine early in the season.. Slumps happen to the best of them.. But then again.. CASHMANS slump is 8 years and counting.. But I am sure one of these years he will break out of it.. After all the no one can be this bad and wrong for so looooonnnnnnnnggggggg….. BWAHAHAHAHAHA………………….
Why YankCrank… Exactly what do you mean?.
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All I meant was Swish isn’t a prototypical fantasy stud. Whereas Swish is a nice player to have in real baseball (solid OPS, 20+ HR, 90-100 BB) his .240-.260 BA and close to 100 Ks don’t really help you in fantasy baseball because they bring your team’s point total down.
So if you’re upset that he’s in a slump and killing your team, well, I would have suggested dropping him about two weeks ago…when it was obvious he was going to come back down to earth from his amazing start. That, and when you take a flaw in your Fantasy ownership and try to spin it to make fun of Brian Cashman, it really ruins your credibility…and also doesn’t show much intelligence, that’s all.
CASHMANS slump is 8 years and counting
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Define what a GM slump is. If not winning a World Series means a slump, which you seem to make it look that way, than more GMs other than just Brian Cashman are in a slump as well. Theo happens to be in a current slump according to your belief, and Billy Beane, although recognized as an amazing GM, is in a hell of a slump compared to Cash.
It’s obvious you dislike him and will throw out any general belief of yours to discredit him or make him look inferior, but at least do it in an intelligent, well-thought-out manner like Steve does. Your little jokes and capitalizing “haha” don’t show us much.
lol sounds like we’re on our way to another community standards post again
lol sounds like we’re on our way to another community standards post again
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I don’t mean to be a dick but, come on…if you don’t like Cashman you can make your point without the cheap shots. This isn’t Lohud.
Corey wrote:
LOL, I’m gonna keep quiet today.
This isn’t Lohud.
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Amen. Pete’s site is very good for info but the commenters over there make you wonder if half of them live in rooms with padded walls.
YankCrank wrote:
lol i kid i kid
YankCrank wrote:
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Why Steve,
Did I touch a never in you?.. Seems to me that if your going to interject on my conversation with Steve at least have the respect for me to voice my opinions on a certain GM or player. with out coming back with some childish remarks.. If you opinions disagree with me that’s fine but do it in a manner that will result in less venom from me and others and more in a civil manner.. Or are you always this confrontational in everything?.. And speaking of intelligent manner?.. Hmmm.. IRONIC to say the least.. Ever hear People in Glass houses shouldn’t throw stones dude… Just my thoughts on this…
Now, shall I help you and try to remove the foot you put into your mouth.. Show me once where I said by slump I mentioned the word WS??… Or are you once again A S S U M I N G????….. If you read my orginal post. I simple stated that I am no CASHMAN ,, I demand my players to perform!!.. You choice to take it to another level.. Or shall i point that out to you,,,,
YankCrank wrote:
Ok.. Now I am not intelligent!!???… I think your problem is obvious,,,, Its merely the fact that you don’t like people having their own opinions unless it agrees with you!!… WOW…. DUDE… I fee for you… But you make this to easy for me going forward….
check out that sign over there…it reads: “don’t feed the animals”
i’m going to back out of this, as it as as useful as going toe to toe with butchie. you win
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Thanks.
YankCrank wrote:
YankeeCrank..
Your problem is that you can’t even see thru the obvious.. No sensible ROTO player would never add a player like swish to his team.. Nice role player but not the player I would take on my team!!….I was merely trying to stir the pot a bit with Steve and have him join in the conversation.. Once again your MAN LOVE FOR CASHMAN is reeking its ugly head!!!.. Perhaps you should remove your cranium from his sphincter for you to see things clearly.. YOUR LOVE for him is making you blind dude…
Your problem is that you can’t even see thru the obvious.. No sensible ROTO player would never add a player like swish to his team.. Nice role player but not the player I would take on my team!!….I was merely trying to stir the pot a bit with Steve and have him join in the conversation.. Once again your MAN LOVE FOR CASHMAN is reeking its ugly head!!!
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I think “our” problem is we disagree on some things, so let’s leave it at that. No need to take it any further. Like I said, you win…we can move on.
@ Steve Lombardi:
nailed it lol
Steve Lombardi wrote:
Couldn’t agree more Steve,
I always enjoy your comments and opinions… Most of which I agree with.. but some people in here have this idea that OTHERS should genuflect to them because their opinions or views are perceived to be corrected by them and them alone….
Just to add on to my last comment…
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Thanks.
nailed it lol
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Haha yes Corey, you nailed it.
Anybody else not very impressed with Matt Holliday’s performance so far this year? It’s definitely early, but would anybody feel comfortable with the Yanks handing out another $20 million a year deal to him after this season?
@ YankCrank:
pass on holliday…also with a h/t to RAB
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090513&content_id=4699424&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy&partnerId=rss_nyy
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i’d also pass on resigning Damon to more than a 2 year deal
@ Corey:
I’d rather Damon for 2 more than Holliday for what it would take to get him. That being said, I think Holliday’s slow start is no more indicative of anything than Teixeira’s. Holliday’s BABIP in 2009 is .269 so maybe he needs the law of averages to help him out of his bad luck?
Again, not saying I want Holliday for another mega-deal, but not writing him off just yet.
Again, not saying I want Holliday for another mega-deal, but not writing him off just yet.
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That’s exactly what I was thinking. Holliday is a nice player, and just like Tex we’ll see things even ou over the long haul. But we have plenty of long term deals already…i’d pass.
i’d also pass on resigning Damon to more than a 2 year deal
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I’d love him for one more year, but that would be hard to do.
@ YankCrank:
i think hes got enough to do 2 years…but anything more then that seems foolish (read: the yankee way )
Corey, MJ:
What about Matsui? Offer him anything or let him walk?
* does happy dance* the girl im seein just won tickets to june 12 yankees-mets at the stadium, im so psyched!
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What about Matsui? Offer him anything or let him walk?
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i gotta wait till the season plays out to see if he makes it…if he plays the whole season i’d offer him a 1 year deal..otherwise i’d pass…it also depends on posada and his ability to catch, if he can’t catch i’d rather let him DH…too many question marks to really answer on matsui for me right now
What about Matsui? Offer him anything or let him walk?
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I’d let Matsui walk. He’s just constantly injured and, with Posada’s destiny as a future DH, we can’t carry a guy like Matsui that no longer plays the field.
does happy dance* the girl im seein just won tickets to june 12 yankees-mets at the stadium, im so psyched!
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Corey, LOL, are you following me? I’m gonna be at that game too! Section 213, come up and say hey!
Here’s my take on this Damon delima:
First- Have we ever seen a player perform like this in a walk year? Thats a joke to clarify things…. I’ve always been a buyer or call it a fan of Damon.. (Just wish he had a stronger arm ).. One year deal with a player option for the second… This way he can continue to show his value and hopefully put up similar stats like he is now..
Second.- Matsui.. What on earth do we do with him?.. The Yankees still rely on the Asian marketing and fan base for revenue also the scouting and development venture they have with the Japanese Giants… I wonder if Yu Darvish would consider joining us sooner rather than later? IF Matsui goes, I would think you have to go after Holliday..
Third.- I still think the jury is out on Holliday.. No sure if he is a product of Coors filed or if he is still getting use to AL pitching?.. But, he is young, has some power . Defensively, a big uptick to what we have now….. Cost?.. well, if he hits the FA market.. something like 22 million would be about right.. In a trade.. Not sure if we have what it takes…Montero?, Miranda?.. Beckman?.. Romie?..Coke? Aceves?.. Any combination might do but I be very careful with dealing with Mr. Bene..
@ MJ:
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haha, awesome! Definitly will do, I have no idea where my seats are for this i’ll let u guys kno…im so excited, first game @ the new stadium and its yankees-mets (which is also my first met-yankee game!)…i get to see the mets lose twice in 10 days, as im also goin to citi field on the 22nd to see pujols mash some met pitching (ill seeya there too MJ?
One year deal with a player option for the second…
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I think we’d all sign up for Damon at one or two more years, agreed. My only concern is that guy in his corner named Scott Boras…something tells me he’ll push Damon to get more than that and I hope the Yanks don’t bite. I’ve enjoyed Johnny as well, but not at 3+ more years.
But, he is young, has some power . Defensively, a big uptick to what we have now….. Cost?.. well, if he hits the FA market.. something like 22 million would be about right
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I’ll respectfully disagree with you here. He does have power like you said, but I believe he’ll be 30 next year, with Boras as his client, and he may be looking for that $22 million you speak of into his age 36-38 seasons. With three $20 million+ deals already on the roster (Jeter coming off soon) i’d prefer to stay away from another one. That, and if I were to trade Montero or Brackman for anybody, i’d want to acquire a much younger, more skilled player. An Adam Jones comes to mind (multi-skilled, not just power with his career already being half over like Holliday).
@ Corey:
Awesome dude! I’m going with my buddy Adam who is a die-hard like us. Definitely let me know where you’ll be or stop by our seats. Should be a fun game. Hopefully we totally rip the Mets that night and kick the weekend off in style.
i would love to have matsui as a ruben sierra off the bat type guy , not sure he’d take that tho…my fear is that we won’t have enough bats to put around tex and a-rod next year…and I would rather take a Matsui on a 1 year deal and damon on 2 vs. a holliday long-term deal
id also like to investigate what trade options may be available as far as corner OFers go…i hear cleveland is really in the financial crapper, I wonder how much it would take to pry sizemore outta their hands
YankCrank wrote:
i think the O’s believe they have a bright future and see Jones in it…so I don’t see them trading him…Plus I wouldn’t trade Montero for anything…when was the last time we had a bat like that come through the system?
I still think the jury is out on Holliday.. Cost?.. well, if he hits the FA market.. something like 22 million would be about right.. In a trade.. Not sure if we have what it takes…Montero?, Miranda?.. Beckman?.. Romie?..Coke? Aceves?..
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Why trade for Holliday when you can get him “for free” after the season?
Further, I agree with YankCrank, if you’re trading a Montero or a Brackman, you’ve got to get an established MLB position player in return that is young and versatile.
i think the O’s believe they have a bright future and see Jones in it…so I don’t see them trading him
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I was referring to an Adam Jones type of player. One who is young, cheap, multi-skilled with his whole career ahead of him. Not Adam Jones himself…even though it would be nice to have him.
Plus I wouldn’t trade Montero for anything…when was the last time we had a bat like that come through the system?
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Agree that he’s probably the best bat in the system in ages but until he starts toasting AA pitching, we don’t know anything about him yet. It’s hard to fully judge his stats at the single-A level.
There’s also the issue of a defensive position that needs to be sorted out. If the Yanks will continue to keep him behind the plate, his development will take a lot longer than if they move him to 1B or just DH him full time.
i hear cleveland is really in the financial crapper, I wonder how much it would take to pry sizemore outta their hands
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Sizemore is still very affordable by today’s standards. Not including the rest of 2009, the Indians owe him $13.1M in salary for 2010-2011 with an $8.5M option for 2012 ($0.5M buyout). Assuming they excercise that option, we’re talking $21.6M for three more years.
The Tribe’s problem is what to do with Travis Hafner, who has gone into the crapper since signing his contract extension. Not including this year, the Tribe are still on the hook for at least another $40.2M through 2012.
I suppose the Yanks could do a Red Sox type of thing and take Hafner as a throw-in on Sizemore, the way Boston took the then-washed up Lowell as a means to get Beckett. The question, however, is what the hell do you do with Hafner? You already have DH candidates on the team and three seasons of Hafner is a total waste of money.
i’ve been keepin my eye on him via RAB’s dotf (best feature of their side by far, to anyone who doesn’t read it and have an interest in the minors, u should def have a gander) and they have been runnin on him all day down there, so i’m a tad worried that we might be gettin Piazza V 2.0 with Montero if they decide to keep him there. 1st base doesn’t look to be an option, and I like the idea of having the DH open in the future in case A-rod breaks down completely…I wonder if the Jose Molina’s pops is around and if he could coach Montero on being a big guy and good defensively behind the plate at the same time(works for Jose, and I figure the brothers had to learn from the father…)
MJ wrote:
hey, they have eaten 40+ million be4, on worse players (lookin at you Kei)…maybe u let mastui walk and have him split time with Posada at dh next year? (and let Posada catch some so he doesn’t whine)
YankCrank wrote:
Disagree with me?… What a surprise!!.. Just kidding YankeCrank… And yes I agree with you… Boras is a concern.. lets see how much Damon enjoys NY and wants to play here the rest of his career…. I would offer one year and a player option on the second.. If Boras balks, well Johnnie.. Good luck…
Holliday in all fairness.. I never been a buyer.. but I justify this feeling on his inflated numbers of Coors field..Still there is time to tell if he is all that good… Didn’t;t realize he was 29.. I thought he was 27-28… Thanks for pointing that out and it only makes the decision easier for me to say PASS!!….
Any thoughts on Matsui or Yu Darvish?… Jones, I like.. not sure if he has the mental toughness to play in NY.. you know have Yankee fans can be so impatient.. LOL…
Not sure how you feel about this choice.. But Nate McClouth?.. I always like that kid.. Pitt has a true CF in the minors who is about to get called up. McCutchen.. From what I hear the kid is the real deal.. Funny, where have I heard that term before.. but they are looking to put Nate back in his true position of left field.. And I heard on WFAN around thanksgiving that the Yankees were very interested in him but Pitt was asking Montero, Hughes and Coke… looking back now.. Seems to me we can re-address this… no??
Corey wrote:
Personally, I think Montero’s biggest value to the franchise is as premium trade bait. As great a bat as he might be, the closer he gets to the big leagues, the more his lack of a defensive position will deplete his value. Obviously a guy like Mat Gamel on the Brewers is a polished AAA bat without any semblance of defensive value but at least the Brewers can move him to 1B since it is doubtful Prince Fielder will stay longer than 2010. The Yanks are running out of spots for him.
Perhaps it’s best to seriously look at trading Montero once he proves he can hit AA pitching?
Corey wrote:
Agreed that they’ve eaten plenty of contract. I suppose it would depend on what the Yanks had to give up. Given how much of a relief it would be to Cleveland to get Hafner off their books, the Indians should have very little leverage in what they ask for.
Corey wrote:
Yup I agree.. Montero is something special so far.. but it takes talent to get back talent.. No sure if Holliday is all what he is on the surface..But what we have to remember is Montero is growing .. something like 6’5 tall.. Not to many catchers in the biggies that big.. First base ? No shot with Teix. OF.. well time to develop him.. How long is the question?.. Additionally. we have another kid name Romie in the minors.. I have seen this kid play.. Fact my son works for the River dogs as an intern on the team.. But the kid has one of the strongest arms I have seen..Reminds me of Munson but only faster and a stronger arm. additionally, his father played for the Red Sox and his brother plays in the Dodger organization.. So, there is some baseball in his DNA….
Personally, I think Montero’s biggest value to the franchise is as premium trade bait.
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I couldn’t agree more. The guy can rake but he is at his highest value right now when he isn’t exposed at the higher levels of being too slow or big of a catcher, too inadequate at 1b and too slow in the corner outfields. I’d hate to have to make a decision on whether to deal or keep Montero though, what a talent.
Fact my son works for the River dogs as an intern on the team
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Lou, that’s awesome! You need to take total advantage of that and check out as many games as you can. I have tons of friends from school who live down there, hate the Yanks with a passion but go to River Dog games just because of how sickly talented that squad is.
Btw, looks like both Jeter and Matsui are in the lineup tonight. I hope that isn’t a mistake…
Did I hear Grady Sizemore?… Now we are talking here!!… I would personally go on record and forgive a certain GM of ours if he pulled this off… And I would personally drive to Cleveland and pick Grady up myself…
Sizemore would be the new face of the Yankees..Lock up CF for the next 8 years with a 30/30 guy!!… If Hafner has to be a throw in, then by all means do it.. Figure out where to put him later… I give up a Hughes, Montero/Miranda and Coke or anyone else (except Joba) if the tribe came calling!!…..Hell throw in another 40 million too…
YankCrank wrote:
I try too.. I live in Hilton head.. and my kid goes to Winthrop…. I try to make the games on the weekday so my golf game isn’t compromised!! Yeah like I have a golf game… lol….
i actually invision a romine/montero tandum catcher/dh tandem in the future of our big league squad (like how they do it now)…that… would be sweet
Think about this:
Matt Holliday is a free agent after this season and so is Jason Bay.
Corey wrote:
Although I have no basis to say this myself (having never seen him catch), everything I read indicates that Montero won’t make it as a catcher.
in my vision, granted its a vision, i have romine catching for the most part while montero is the “back-up” and otherwise DH (while we have a third string catcher on the bench…this way, we never lose a hitter when our backup catcher is in…a man can dream!
Jeet wrote:
I have a feeling the Sox will try and lock down Bay after this season, but who knows.
Matt Holliday is a free agent after this season and so is Jason Bay.
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i foresee the sox locking bay up, and even still i’d pass…both of these seem like classic past-yankee no brainers that turn into strikes against cashman to me
i foresee the sox locking bay up, and even still i’d pass…
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Agree on both counts. Bay is too important to Boston’s offense to let go, given Ortiz’s decline and, further, he’s having such a career year right now (granted only 120 AB’s into a 600 AB season) that we’re getting a slightly misguided impression of who he really is.
Wow all these posts about corner outfielders and not one that mentions Jason Bay. Let’s keep it that way.
Seriously though – is there a widespread presumption that Theo will get something done before free agency? I think its pretty clear he’d be the best free agent option out there, and he’s shown he can perform in the AL East. I have this terrible fear that Theo has some insane fascination with Matt Holliday when I’d much prefer to see Cashman shovel the money at him. Or give JD a three year deal.
Oops, I guess I should have refreshed after reading through this whole thread without seeing Bay mentioned.
And that was all because I was monitoring the MLB gameday feed out of Anaheim.
OnceIWasAYankeeFan wrote:
Me too.. Speaking of red sox any one see Bard last night?… Looked impressive.. Kid was touching 98-99 on the gun..
I know MJ won’t like this, but I’d rather give X a 1 year “get me a contract” contract after the season (if he doesnt end up coming back) then give Bay or Holliday their pay-day…in fact, i’d rather run Swisher-CF(Melky, Ajax, Gardner), NOT CF (Melky, Ajax, Gardner) then sign either of them
MJ wrote:
Yup totally agree.. wonder is he plays hoops??… Kid reminds me of Fred McGriff… Too bad we don’t have a place for him on the squard…
does anyone other than me like McLouth or have thoughts on him?..
does anyone other than me like McLouth or have thoughts on him?..
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the pirates seem to ask a lot for him, at least according to past rumors, and he isn’t all that young anymore…i’d take Sizemore over him in a trade cause not only is Sizemore better, he’s younger to boot
Corey wrote:
I agree.. But, can Sizemore be traded?.. I have an awful lot of friends in Cleveland that say no way the tribe let him go.. Especially to the Yankees.. just figure McLouth was an option…
Lou,
I haven’t seen the clips but he did pretty good for coming into a three run game with second and third, striking out the first guy, Napoli, who gave him some props afterward, then allowing a sac fly. I heard that the gun only touched 97 but everyone seemed to agree that the Anaheim gun is slow.
I just wish it had been a better game situation to bring in Bard after Wake. Gotta be even tougher to go up against an upper 90s fastball after facing the floater for three ABs.
OnceIWasAYankeeFan wrote:
I was watching the game on MLB on my computer.. So i got to see him on NESHD,,, I was impressed with his composure and curve ball.. But then again after touching high 90′s.. an 85 mph curve can make anyone look foolish.. Gave up a single to Figgins.. but after that.. LIGHTS OUT!!.. Where do you figure they use him?.. 8th inning to bridge to Pab?.. That will be trouble for us Yankee fans… Kid look good!!.. And if they use him right, which I know Terry will, they have the making of a very tough back end of the bullpen for years to come…
Sicilian Lou wrote:
I try too.. I live in Hilton head.. and my kid goes to Winthrop…. I try to make the games on the weekday so my golf game isn’t compromised!! Yeah like I have a golf game… lol….
You live on HHI? Small world, I have a bunch of family there.
I think right now you’ll see him follow Masterson’s path – easing into major league experience, but by the end of the year probably pitching some very high-leverage innings. What pleases me so much right now is that Ramirez looks so good, as does Delcarmen and Okajima has been in a groove, too. Its really been the saving grace since the starters have been so mediocre to bad outside of Wakefield. So they don’t need Bard to take over the eighth inning, but I think you’re right, he could be in that spot before too long.
Long term I do believe he is the closer because of Papelbon’s desire to “set the mark” for relievers. I got the love/hate relationship with the guy because I think he’s a moron and his desire for Mariano dollars (or more) is ridiculous but he’s been such a great closer, you deal with the rest. I can see Bard taking over as soon as Papelbon reaches free agency.
Would be tremendous though if they managed to keep both of them!
BTW, did it really look like a curveball? I heard it was more of a slurve.
OnceIWasAYankeeFan wrote:
My friend, you have just become my favorite person in this room!!.. Great POST!!…
I respect the Red Sox ,their players and their loyal fans.. Not the ones that just found out baseball is played in beantown. I think we both know who they are!!….. LOVE Terry.. but who doesn’t!…
yup the whole bullpen for Red Sox have been just about lights out.. Terry does a nice job with that group and seems to get the most out of them……
To answer your question.. Looked like a 12 to 6 breaking ball.. that’s what NESHD said… but at first it looked like a slider than I seen the speed.. but they called it his curve.. But hey.. does it really matter?.. Another thing that will keep me up at nights worring!!!…
Lou, as a friend used to say on another board I visit, CLASP!
Its funny the way you describe his breaking pitch because I heard it as more of a slider, definitely not that kind of big break. But he can throw strikes with it, and as long as he does, the combination with his heater should make him very tough. I like how Tito handles the bullpen too and what really surprised me was that they cut Javier Lopez loose. If there’s any blind spot its keeping certain useless guys longer than needed. When I heard Bard was called up, I figured the rookie, Jones, was being sent down. Nice to see them be smart and cut loose the weakest link. And the pen should only be better when Masterson returns.
@ OnceIWasAYankeeFan:
The kid did impress me to say the least… Now I have to figure out how we can counter this one two punch.. The way I worry about the Yankees you think they pay me!!!…. But, let me know when you get to see Bard yourself.. I would be very interested to see what your thoughts are….
I didn’t hear about Javy.. and I agree smart move on the sox part for sticking with Jones.. If they don’t have anything more to prove in the minors you have to stick them with the big club.. after all, how else will they learn?.. That’s what the Yankee did for all those years in the 90′s… We had a top kid come up and he stood.. Take your lumps kid but in a year you will be better for it and so will the ball club… Now, I shake my head and ask what happen to the plan???.. Ohh yeah that’s right.. The Red Sox stole it from us and they aren’t giving it back!!.. LOL…
Good chatting with you dude.. hopefully we can have many more conversation in the future!….
Raf wrote:
Sorry RAJ seen this very late.. where at?., I might golf with them?..
I was hoping to see him in this awful game against Anaheim, but it was Delcarmen fated to lose this. No way does the pitching deserve the blame – three for 23 with runners in scoring position, and Ortiz oh for seven and stranding 12 all by himself? That’s just a crushing way to lose. And with the Yanks winning, we probably miss two chances to pick up on the Jays and the Yanks will get closer and closer. Ugh.
Guess it will make for a more exciting pennant race though, and that’s what we live for, right?