Comments on: Stats Suggest Joba, In Rotation, Not Worth More As Starter

By: Why Joba Chamberlain Struggles

Why Joba Chamberlain Struggles — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:53:33 +0000

[...] I’ve been saying it for over six weeks now, but, I’ll keep saying it until the Yankees get a clue on this [...]

By: Taking A Regular Turn, Joba’s Not Special

Taking A Regular Turn, Joba’s Not Special — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:57:35 +0000

[...] Two weeks ago, I shared that Joba Chamberlain, as a starting pitcher, is somewhat pedestrian with normal (4 days) rest , great with an extra day’s rest, and so-so with too much rest. [...]

By: June 1st @ The Indians

June 1st @ The Indians — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:51:42 +0000

[...] to me, was Joba Chamberlain. And, here’s the deal: This game is another feather in the cap of my theory from last Thursday. When Joba pitches on 5 days rest, he’s a super-stud. And, when he has 4 days or 6+days rest, [...]

By: MJ

MJ — Sat, 30 May 2009 11:27:52 +0000

if your not using the guys who you didn;t want to trade, then what benefit are you doing for the ball club?.. We didn’t make the playoffs last year and Johan was the difference for us
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You’re actually wrong on two counts. First, you’re assuming that Kennedy wouldn’t have pitched for the Yankees in 2009. Had he been healthy, there is no doubt that he’d have logged innings for the Yanks this season. Just look at how this season has unfolded so far: Wang was put on the DL and Hughes was called up. Aceves was called up for the bullpen and would’ve probably gotten the next set of starts in case of injury. That would leave Kennedy as the third-likeliest call-up. I guarantee you Kennedy would’ve pitched for the Yanks this year, especially if he was dominating AAA as much as he has been since late last year.

Second, you can’t possibly assume that Santana was the difference between the Yanks making and missing the playoffs. Unless you were watching a different team last year, the Yanks missed the playoffs last year because their offense regressed by nearly 200 runs scored from ’07 to ’08 due in large part to the absence of Posada and Melky/Cano/Molina being virtual automatic outs last year (along with Jeter’s 3 month hiatus and Matsui’s injuries). You can’t just assume that Santana pitches the Yanks to the playoffs simply because he’s Santana. After all, the Mets didn’t make the playoffs either…everyone forgets this.

By: Sicilian Lou

Sicilian Lou — Sat, 30 May 2009 03:00:14 +0000

@ handtius:
Would you really have rather traded away good minor leaguers and gotten Santana and had to pay him all that cash or just sign CC, like we did without giving up any young talent. Isn’t having a younger ace lefty, without sacrificing the youth, a better move?

I was asked this before and I say this.. what makes you think that cashman wouldn’t; have gone after CC too?.and since when and forgive me for being straight forward but since when did money matter to the Yankees?. Cashman has spend over 1 billion dollars in less than 8 years.. All you given up is a prospect suspect.. IPK which Minny would have taken is not helping this ball club.. Granted he is hurt but he wasn’;t helping us in 2008 nor was he in the plans for 2009.. so really, what good is it?.. I thought the idea is to win… if your not using the guys who you didn;t want to trade, then what benefit are you doing for the ball club?.. We didn’t make the playoffs last year and Johan was the difference for us….Right now.. Johan is still winning and IPK isnt;.. granted he is hurt but still no major plans to use him..

So how I see this is, It did cost us the playoffs in 2008 and now a prospect suspect who may at best be a number 5 starter.. .. Instead on having two stud lefties in our rotation… Now which would have been the better move?.. … just my thoughts on it…

By: handtius

handtius — Sat, 30 May 2009 00:31:42 +0000

Sicilian Lou wrote:

Treu but Talent that shows he dominates in the little league but gets rattled and show no passion to pitch on the center stage.. just my thoughts on that….
And the talent you so loosely like to point out was the exact talent that i was referring to be ship to Minny for an even better talent in one Johan Santana… but right now that’s a moot point plus the fact the kid is hurt which again only goes to show, when there was value you should have pulled the trigger on the deal…

Would you really have rather traded away good minor leaguers and gotten Santana and had to pay him all that cash or just sign CC, like we did without giving up any young talent. Isn’t having a younger ace lefty, without sacrificing the youth, a better move?

By: Sicilian Lou

Sicilian Lou — Fri, 29 May 2009 22:24:26 +0000

Raf wrote:

Sicilian Lou wrote:
but The Yankees play in the big leagues where it counts….
True, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you give up on a young starter with talent.

By: Raf

Raf — Fri, 29 May 2009 21:24:26 +0000

Sicilian Lou wrote:

but The Yankees play in the big leagues where it counts….

True, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you give up on a young starter with talent.

By: Raf

Raf — Fri, 29 May 2009 21:21:34 +0000

Besides, Kennedy’s hurt and isn’t going anywhere.

As for Rags, it was nice that he closed for the Yanks, but given the starting pitching during his time there, it would’ve been better if he stayed in the rotation. Probably never would’ve signed Eddie Lee Whitson

By: Sicilian Lou

Sicilian Lou — Fri, 29 May 2009 21:11:32 +0000

MJ wrote:

IMO, IPK should have had his bags packed already.. No good is he serving us in the minors
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You’ve written him off on the basis of 58.2 innings in the big leagues? He’s not serving the Yanks any good on the basis of his 248.1 innings in the minors where he’s 19-6 with 273 K’s and an ERA of 1.96?
Give me a break. That makes no sense.

Mj,, I was referring to the Johan deal.. sorry to rattle your cage… but The Yankees play in the big leagues where it counts….