guys like mo and posada and jeter are going to say they want the ball/in the lineup everyday, rain or shine, unless it’s physically impossible for them to play. it’s part of what makes them who they are. it’s the managers job to determine at what level below “physically impossible” it’s not in the best interest of the player/team to send them out there, and force them out of taking the ball/lineup. it’s the only way you are going to keep them out. i have no idea if that is the case in this instance, as maybe mo just had a bad day. but girardi’s bullpen managment has been horrific, and he has struggled with the above in the past in my opinion, where he listens to veterans word (again, they are never going to say “uncle”) instead of making determinations on his own if they should be in or out irrespective of what they tell him.

lisaswan wrote:

Do we know Girardi knew that Mo was sick? And when does it become Mariano’s responsibility to say that he can’t pitch?

If he was ralphing it up and trying to sleep it out in the trainer’s room, I think Geno or Steve would have told Joe.

when mo does it, its a gutty performance from the heart, anyone else its stupid

Do we know Girardi knew that Mo was sick? And when does it become Mariano’s responsibility to say that he can’t pitch?

@ Corey:
Straight out of the comment, as I noted in my comment. I probably should have credited him directly rather than indirectly- it was MATT ACTY.

Raf wrote:

Jake1 wrote:
its what u get when u have 1 reliable bullpen arm
It’s also what you get when you have a manager that has seemingly lost his touch for running a bp.
A lot went wrong that game, starting with the decision to remove Sabathia.

could not agree more, raf. on both counts.

yagottagotomo1 wrote:

The Yankees bullpen has gotten better of late. I dont love it, but the results have been better, because they have had to pitch less with the starters going deeper. I got this from a comment on RAB:
Also, the relievers dropped their ERA from 6.46 in April to 4.04 in May and now it’s down to 2.35 (huge SSS alert) in June so far.

lol did u take that last part right out of a RAB commentor’s comment? or do u post under that handle over there

Jake1 wrote:

its what u get when u have 1 reliable bullpen arm

It’s also what you get when you have a manager that has seemingly lost his touch for running a bp.

A lot went wrong that game, starting with the decision to remove Sabathia.

The Yankees bullpen has gotten better of late. I dont love it, but the results have been better, because they have had to pitch less with the starters going deeper. I got this from a comment on RAB:
Also, the relievers dropped their ERA from 6.46 in April to 4.04 in May and now it’s down to 2.35 (huge SSS alert) in June so far.

it would be great if we had more reliable bullpen arms.

but since we have one of the best pitchers in baseball already in the game, only at 101 pitches (he averages 111), who was pitching very well (one mistake) and getting better as the game went on (retired 6 of the last 7 he faced), maybe, just maybe, girardi can stick with him. especially if mo is sick and it’s a non save situation (don’t care what the “rules” on bringing in your closer say). i was surprised it wasn’t CC when i thought nothing was wrong with mo. with mo sick, it has to be CC for one more and give us a chance to win it with the top of the order in the 9th. bad job by girardi.