• June 9th @ The Red Sox

    Posted by on June 9th, 2009 · Comments (14)

    Welcome to first place, Boston.

    And, now, the Yankees have played the Red Sox six times this season – and have yet to beat Boston.

    Think about that for a second, New York is 34-24 at this moment. They’re playing .654 against everyone not named the Boston Red Sox and they’re 0-6 against Boston. At some point, they have to beat these guys, right? But, not tonight.

    This game? In a word: Ouch.

    First, A.J. Burnett centers a fat fastball to David “I’m batting .197 and only have two homers on June 9th” Ortiz and it ends up half-way to the moon for a homerun. And, then, thanks to an A-Rod error, the floodgates open and “the big inning” is reality for the Red Sox. And, that’s all that Josh Beckett needed – as he was stuffing the Yankees bats down their own throats. Really, by the 7th inning, I was just rooting for the Yankees to score a run by that point – just one run – to avoid their first shutout of the season. But, it was not to be…

    Well, if anything, this game makes me now feel better about CC Sabathia being a Yankee. Watching Beckett in this game, all could think about was the string of mercenary pitchers that the Red Sox have “bought” through the years…Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling and now Josh Beckett.

    Yes, I know that Boston “traded” for Mango Tree, Red Light, and Trailer Park Josh. But, be honest…they were only able to trade for them because their former teams could not afford to keep them. Each time, it was all about Boston being able to pay these guys what they wanted, etc.

    So, if it’s O.K. for Boston to buy pitching, then it should be O.K. for the Yankees to buy pitching. I just wish the Yankees “bought” better pitching than guys like Jeff Weaver, José Contreras, a broken down Kevin Brown, Javier Vázquez, Carl Pavano, an old Randy Johnson, Kei Igawa and, at this point, we have to say A.J. Burnett too, no?

    Sure, the pies in the face and all that team building stuff is nice. But, including this game, Burnett has made a dozen starts for the Yankees this season and four of them have been terrible – two against Boston, one against Toronto, and one against the Phillies. For what he’s getting paid, you want him to show up against those types of teams, right?

    Comments on June 9th @ The Red Sox

    1. Tresh Fan
      June 10th, 2009 | 12:00 am

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Until the Yankees show that they can beat the Red Sox you cannot take them seriously as a pennant contender. Now it’s up to Wang to turn things around. God help us.

    2. June 10th, 2009 | 8:03 am

      Steve Lombardi wrote:
      and, at this point, we have to say A.J. Burnett too, no?

      Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, like you say, it’s been a whole 12 games. Sure, his prior 227 games suggest he’s a good pitcher, but having seen him over this third of a season, it’s clear all that was just a mirage. Can’t handle the pressure. Bust. Cashman’s an idiot. Etc. Etc.

      Tresh Fan wrote:

      Until the Yankees show that they can beat the Red Sox you cannot take them seriously as a pennant contender.

      Yep, these six games should definitely outweigh the other 52 games they’ve played.

      Dear God, people. Sample size.

    3. MJ
      June 10th, 2009 | 8:35 am

      Steve’s right on this one. Sample size aside, AJ Burnett has been underwhelming on the mound for the Yanks. He’s certainly had some very good starts but he’s had some serious stinkers too and he’s more or less what anyone would’ve expected: wildly inconsistent from start to start.

      As far as beating Boston…at some point the Yanks’ll beat ‘em this year. The only thing I’m getting annoyed with is the difficulty we’ll have to win the season series from them. Keep in mind that the only reason the Yanks “won” the 2005 AL East was because they had the benefit of the tiebreaker over Boston in the head-to-head matchup. It may not have mattered in the grand scheme of things but every little bit counts…

    4. YankCrank
      June 10th, 2009 | 8:49 am

      Fuck you, AJ Burnett.

      Look, I was one of the guys on here that was in favor of the AJ signing, amongst many others who weren’t. I liked the signing for the understanding that, even though he would be overpaid, every once-in-a-while he would emerge from his 4.5 ERA (and average win/loss record) to step up and pitch a huge game. You know, like all of the sparkling games he always pitched against the Yanks and Sox for Toronto.

      Last night was a game he needed to pitch well and give us a chance to win. With Beckett sharp, we were out of the game after Burnett pitched an inning and a third…unbelievably frustrating.

      This game doesn’t bury us or ruin our season, but my God…after playing .600 ball for a month this really brings you back down to earth. Thanks for nothing this time around, AJ.

    5. Jake1
      June 10th, 2009 | 8:53 am

      they are just a better team than us. flat out better pitching.

    6. butchie22
      June 10th, 2009 | 8:58 am

      I told you so! To quote MJ: AJ Burnout is Shit! Only joking about that. Burnout was a pitcher that was pitching in the AL East and did well aganst Boston BUT he was pitching in a low pressure situation when pitching for the Jays. It’s a hockey town, where even when the baseball team did well this year they still drew half of what the Yankees draw with the exception of Doc Halladay’s starts. The way he’s done in these Red Pox starts has been awful. His comments after the game were ridiculous.as well. I wanted this guy to do well but his track record of pitching to an almost 5 ERA last year and the fact he was dominant against two teams last year(the Yanks and the Red Sox).and so-so against everyone else brings up a bunch of red flags. Either the Yankee scouts didn’t bother to watch the games he pitched against other teams OR the Yanks just fell in love with a Yankee killer yet again…..

      @ Justin. Sample size?HAHAHAHAHAH, sample size you say? The Yanks have lost all 6 games they have played against the Red Sox this year, can you make a sample size statement when they at least win one against them? C’mon, mate they have to beat the Red Sox to at least show that they can. If they face them in the playoffs and the Red Sox have made mincemeat with them in the regular season, what message have the Yankees sent?

      @ Steve, when Boston got the Mango Tree Man, Shill the Shrill and Beckshitt they exercised better pitcher evaluation. even after Beckeshitt’s less than stellar first season with the Red Sox, Theo stuck with him wisely enough. If that was Cash Man, Beckshitt would have been traded away for somebody else’s aging veteran.

      @MJ, we finally agreed on something besides Assmouth Papelbone! I do think that every lit bit does count, so winning games against teams in the division are important but especially Boston. As I’ve said earlier in the season, I think Boston is a better team than the Yankees. These games are exposing the strengths of the Red Sox and the weaknesses of the Yankees. The Yanks should win one against the Red Sox, probably the CC game. If they don’t,then the Yanks are proving my point about which team is better head to head. Also, it is confounding to me that the Yanks haven’t at least won one game yet against the Red Sox……..

    7. Corey
      June 10th, 2009 | 9:38 am

      ah butchie long time no see

    8. Corey
      June 10th, 2009 | 9:39 am

      for the record, i still have faith in AJ…if he stops walking people he’ll be fine

    9. June 10th, 2009 | 9:48 am

      Oh, come on, folks. Try to keep a wide view. A sample size of six games is not predictive. Yes, it sucks they’ve lost those six games, but they tell us next to nothing about what they’re going to do over the course of the season or in the playoffs, against the Red Sox or anyone else. And they will beat the Red Sox sometime this year. Just relax.

      As for Burnett, a sample size of 12 games is not predictive. Yes, he’s been disappointing thus far. But it’s way too early to lump him in with the likes of Carl Pavano and Kei Igawa. His ERA is about a run higher than his career number, so we can expect it to come down a bit. That said, he will remain inconsistent, just as he’s always been. But he will also be occasionally dominating. That’s a solid, if frustrating, number three, or even number two, starter. What he’s getting paid has nothing to do with anything. He is what he is, last night’s clunker aside.

      And yes, Butchie, sample size. Sample size, sample size, sample size. Being annoyed over last night’s game is perfectly understandable. It annoys me, too. But one game does not a season make. All it tells us is that the Yankees played poorly last night. Nothing else.

    10. Raf
      June 10th, 2009 | 9:55 am

      First, A.J. Burnett centers a fat fastball to David “I’m batting .197 and only have two homers on June 9th”

      That’s even more of a reason to try and pump one past him, no?

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Until the Yankees show that they can beat the Red Sox you cannot take them seriously as a pennant contender.

      2008 Yanks went 9-9 against the Sox, and 11-7 against the Rays. Were they a serious pennant contender last year?

    11. June 10th, 2009 | 9:56 am

      Actually, rereading this thread, I’m not quite sure why I’m so exasperated. With the usual exception, everyone’s being quite reasonable. It’s probably just misdirected (or, at least, overly generalized) frustration.

    12. Raf
      June 10th, 2009 | 10:03 am

      Justin wrote:

      Actually, rereading this thread, I’m not quite sure why I’m so exasperated. With the usual exception, everyone’s being quite reasonable. It’s probably just misdirected (or, at least, overly generalized) frustration.

      After last night’s game, I suppose it’s expected :)

    13. G.I. Joey
      June 10th, 2009 | 11:06 am

      Although this game was certainly by no means season ending, it was absolutely demoralizing. After AJ gave up that dinger to Big Sloppy and he took a curtain call, I went temporarily insane. I understand that AJ has only pitched 12 games, but at this point it doesn’t look like he can rise to the occasion when we need him to.

    14. Evan3457
      June 10th, 2009 | 6:33 pm

      Remind me again how much the season’s means in the final standings and the postseason; maybe we can retroactively award the 2006 ALDS and AL pennant to the Yanks instead of the Tigers, and the 2008 AL East and pennant to the Yanks instead of the Rays

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