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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/06/10/june-10th-the-red-sox/comment-page-1/#comment-207729</link>
		<dc:creator>butchie22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin, Corey, Justin, thanks guys I appreciate it. You are all gentlemen. Sometimes you think life is pretty bad with stuff like the Yanks going up and down and then real life hits you in a certain unpredictable way. Very tough year for me personally BUT life throws these unavoidable curveballs sometimes.

@ Justin, I think that sometimes frustration sets in. In my case, I&#039;m having fun with the names. It&#039;s harmless actually. In my case, I have to have some fun with this or I&#039;d go nuts with all the ups and downs. That being said, I still defend Steve in his use of &quot;Nitwit&quot; Swisher. When you see a major league player screwing up like this,it&#039;s very dissapointing. As much as I like Swisher&#039;s enthusiasm and looseness, his play on the field has left something left to be desired. Justin you have a comics blog? What is the URL?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('butchie22');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_207729','butchie22');" /></div><span id="co_207729"><p>@Justin, Corey, Justin, thanks guys I appreciate it. You are all gentlemen. Sometimes you think life is pretty bad with stuff like the Yanks going up and down and then real life hits you in a certain unpredictable way. Very tough year for me personally BUT life throws these unavoidable curveballs sometimes.</p>
<p>@ Justin, I think that sometimes frustration sets in. In my case, I&#8217;m having fun with the names. It&#8217;s harmless actually. In my case, I have to have some fun with this or I&#8217;d go nuts with all the ups and downs. That being said, I still defend Steve in his use of &#8220;Nitwit&#8221; Swisher. When you see a major league player screwing up like this,it&#8217;s very dissapointing. As much as I like Swisher&#8217;s enthusiasm and looseness, his play on the field has left something left to be desired. Justin you have a comics blog? What is the URL?</p>
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		<title>By: YankCrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankCrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read your full post butch, sorry to hear about your losses.</description>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sry to hear that butch</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/06/10/june-10th-the-red-sox/comment-page-1/#comment-207177</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ butchie22&lt;/b&gt;:

Sorry to hear about your personal troubles.

My dislike of the name-calling has nothing to do with me being overly sensitive or whatever (clicking on my name and reading a few posts of my (possibly offensive) comics blog would disabuse you of that notion pretty quickly, I would think). The reason I don&#039;t like the name-calling is that it&#039;s poor technique. It actually makes arguments less persuasive. Using incendiary language has the effect of making those who disagree with you less likely to listen to the substance of your argument and more likely to just dismiss you out of hand. So, if you&#039;re trying to persuade people, calling your subject a &quot;Nitwit&quot; Swisher probably isn&#039;t the way to go. Also, it&#039;s just not all that clever.</description>
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<p>Sorry to hear about your personal troubles.</p>
<p>My dislike of the name-calling has nothing to do with me being overly sensitive or whatever (clicking on my name and reading a few posts of my (possibly offensive) comics blog would disabuse you of that notion pretty quickly, I would think). The reason I don&#8217;t like the name-calling is that it&#8217;s poor technique. It actually makes arguments less persuasive. Using incendiary language has the effect of making those who disagree with you less likely to listen to the substance of your argument and more likely to just dismiss you out of hand. So, if you&#8217;re trying to persuade people, calling your subject a &#8220;Nitwit&#8221; Swisher probably isn&#8217;t the way to go. Also, it&#8217;s just not all that clever.</p>
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		<title>By: Separating Bad Outcomes And Boneheadism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Separating Bad Outcomes And Boneheadism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this blog have questioned my recent criticism of Nick Swisher&#8217;s play in the Yankees game of June 10, 2009 &#8211; where I said it was Nick Swisher who cost the Yankees the contest that evening. Many wanted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: YankCrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankCrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Wanger AND Swish are responsible for the loss yesterday beyond the shadow of a doubt.
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Hey butch, I agree that both Wang and Swish made mistakes that lead to a tough loss last night. But just those two? The entire team was 2 for 15 with RISP. Take a look at the breakdown f.a.s. did a couple posts up to see how terrible the entire Yankee team was. It really was a total team loss, not just Wang and Swish.</description>
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<p>Hey butch, I agree that both Wang and Swish made mistakes that lead to a tough loss last night. But just those two? The entire team was 2 for 15 with RISP. Take a look at the breakdown f.a.s. did a couple posts up to see how terrible the entire Yankee team was. It really was a total team loss, not just Wang and Swish.</p>
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		<title>By: butchie22</title>
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		<dc:creator>butchie22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people are very touchy about their sacred cows. Funny I didn&#039;t see too many people complain when Marte and Nady were called shit by someone! Justin, you can call me Butch BTW. Name Calling? People are so sensitive about their heroes, unh? Lighten up guys ,it&#039;s only baseball. Lately, I&#039;ve had a lot of deaths in my family ,had to make too many hospital visits and one of my family members is very sick with cancer and the other with heart disease, so I haven&#039;t posted that much. That is the real deal, NOT some guy throwing a ball 99 mph OR  someone flubbing a catch.BUT to see that people are so touchy about nicknames.....chill folks. I have to have some fun with this or I&#039;d go crazy with garbage like the 0-7...I almost slipped and said 0-8. Honestly, I have to have some fun with this stuff to keep my perspective on it......

The Wanger is really becoming a liability isn&#039;t he? I like him so much, but he seemingly can&#039;t get it together. When he pitches 95 mph he can&#039;t locate or his mental makeup is off as well. Wanger can&#039;t stay on the starting staff much longer. I&#039;m all about results and quite frankly, Wanger is off to the 5 worst starts in baseball history. I don&#039;t know what&#039;s wrong with him, but he&#039;s killing the team while doing it.

Swisher being called Nitwit... Steve it doesn&#039;t distract from the substance of your argument at all! He can be a nitwit at times and you wre dead on with your assessment. I happen to like Swish a little more than you do,but in essence he was the goat last night. I like Swisher&#039;s attitude in the clubhouse etc so on . But he is a goofball that Swisher Sweet is(I haven&#039;t called him Swisher Shit yet,but just wait)and he brings a looseness to the club that was missing in years past. Steve&#039;s argument against his play in yesterday&#039;s game is very strong. These are the types of lapses that an Alex Rios or a Jose Reyes make in the field and Swisher is not as good as those two players. Both Wanger AND Swish are responsible for the loss yesterday beyond the shadow of a doubt. And to the Swisher Legion(the Swisherites), he sometimes looks like the the Oakland Swish and the Chicago Swish BOTH in the same game! That is what is so frustrating about this guy in addition to being hyped up as some savior. Which he certainly is not.....

@ Crank, yeah Steve and I have some similarities BUT I like actually like certain players more than he does vice versa. I think what we both share is that we want the results to be in our favor( meaning the Yankees winning in the end). Also, we&#039;ve both  been fans since 1973...after a while when you&#039;ve seen almost everything happen to this club in a 35 year period certain things start to annoy you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('butchie22');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_207165','butchie22');" /></div><span id="co_207165"><p>Some people are very touchy about their sacred cows. Funny I didn&#8217;t see too many people complain when Marte and Nady were called shit by someone! Justin, you can call me Butch BTW. Name Calling? People are so sensitive about their heroes, unh? Lighten up guys ,it&#8217;s only baseball. Lately, I&#8217;ve had a lot of deaths in my family ,had to make too many hospital visits and one of my family members is very sick with cancer and the other with heart disease, so I haven&#8217;t posted that much. That is the real deal, NOT some guy throwing a ball 99 mph OR  someone flubbing a catch.BUT to see that people are so touchy about nicknames&#8230;..chill folks. I have to have some fun with this or I&#8217;d go crazy with garbage like the 0-7&#8230;I almost slipped and said 0-8. Honestly, I have to have some fun with this stuff to keep my perspective on it&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>The Wanger is really becoming a liability isn&#8217;t he? I like him so much, but he seemingly can&#8217;t get it together. When he pitches 95 mph he can&#8217;t locate or his mental makeup is off as well. Wanger can&#8217;t stay on the starting staff much longer. I&#8217;m all about results and quite frankly, Wanger is off to the 5 worst starts in baseball history. I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s wrong with him, but he&#8217;s killing the team while doing it.</p>
<p>Swisher being called Nitwit&#8230; Steve it doesn&#8217;t distract from the substance of your argument at all! He can be a nitwit at times and you wre dead on with your assessment. I happen to like Swish a little more than you do,but in essence he was the goat last night. I like Swisher&#8217;s attitude in the clubhouse etc so on . But he is a goofball that Swisher Sweet is(I haven&#8217;t called him Swisher Shit yet,but just wait)and he brings a looseness to the club that was missing in years past. Steve&#8217;s argument against his play in yesterday&#8217;s game is very strong. These are the types of lapses that an Alex Rios or a Jose Reyes make in the field and Swisher is not as good as those two players. Both Wanger AND Swish are responsible for the loss yesterday beyond the shadow of a doubt. And to the Swisher Legion(the Swisherites), he sometimes looks like the the Oakland Swish and the Chicago Swish BOTH in the same game! That is what is so frustrating about this guy in addition to being hyped up as some savior. Which he certainly is not&#8230;..</p>
<p>@ Crank, yeah Steve and I have some similarities BUT I like actually like certain players more than he does vice versa. I think what we both share is that we want the results to be in our favor( meaning the Yankees winning in the end). Also, we&#8217;ve both  been fans since 1973&#8230;after a while when you&#8217;ve seen almost everything happen to this club in a 35 year period certain things start to annoy you.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;YankCrank&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I actually explained that theory to another commenter on WW! If you connect the childish name-calling to the biased, unexplainable hatred to random players…you get the same person. I’ve thought that for a long time running now…no offense to either butch of Steve, of course…it’s just a very close coincidence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, in fairness, Butchie tends to be way worse about this stuff than Steve usually is. Butchie is more like the manifestation of Steve&#039;s uncontrolled id.</description>
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<blockquote><p>I actually explained that theory to another commenter on WW! If you connect the childish name-calling to the biased, unexplainable hatred to random players…you get the same person. I’ve thought that for a long time running now…no offense to either butch of Steve, of course…it’s just a very close coincidence. </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, in fairness, Butchie tends to be way worse about this stuff than Steve usually is. Butchie is more like the manifestation of Steve&#8217;s uncontrolled id.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, I almost want to say that New York needs to “Roy Halladay” Wang and send him down to the minors, have him work with someone to figure this out. (Too bad Neil Allen is gone - as it’s reported he taught Wang the sinker.)
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they can&#039;t send him to the minors without havin him go through waivers...and surely someone will grab him. That &#039;s why they went the DL Route. The whole problem is with his service time I believe and the fact that hes out of options.</description>
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they can&#8217;t send him to the minors without havin him go through waivers&#8230;and surely someone will grab him. That &#8216;s why they went the DL Route. The whole problem is with his service time I believe and the fact that hes out of options.</p>
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		<title>By: Tcarda4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tcarda4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha. Enough said i suppose.</description>
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