Justin wrote:

butchie22 wrote:
Someone mentioned something about id, superego,ego(I had to throw in the ego/supergeo thing for good measure) yesterday in reference to my opinions relative to yours. This proves that that they were wrong.
That was just a joke specifically about Steve using a derogatory nickname and your tendency to use lots more of them. No offense meant to either of you.
And to add insult to injury, isn’t the Yankee mission statement to win the world Series every year?
This is a thoroughly unrealistic goal that should not be taken seriously.

Yeah, I realize that about the names etc so on. I also tend to take the more cynical view of things to most things Yankee. I have become a true Yank Crank( pun intended). More like a been there done that old fart……

In reference to the mission statement, that is the lofty standard that the organization holds itself to. They take it seriously that is why they are spending so much money on making that goal real every year. Though, Yankees INC hasn’t seen a championship since they have spent so much bloody money anyway.Like, I have said before Justin, the Yankee Inc people use that winning/world Series goal as a means to an end. That end being profits ultimately…..

Cashman needs to go.

Justin has of course hit it on the nose. Judge a team and its GM by whether it made the playoffs. Any team that makes the playoffs has a pretty decent chance to win it all. The Yankees were bounced out in three straight Division Series. Well a Division Series is only best of 5. We all know that anything can happen in a shorter series. But for a midge infestation, the Yankees might have been in the LCS in 2007. The Yanks had Lady Luck smile on them more than once when they were winning 4 in 5 years. Eventually the worm turns.

As for this disastrous bullpen, it would impress me more Steve if you had identified the specific bullpen guys who don’t belong, who you could predict ahead of time as Cashman mistakes. Unfortunately you can’t, because in the end the players have to perform.

GMs make up rosters. Players win championships. No GM has a crystal ball that tells him who will perform in the spotlight, who won’t, and what to do about it, either ahead of time or when you have a chance to fix a problem.

butchie22 wrote:

Someone mentioned something about id, superego,ego(I had to throw in the ego/supergeo thing for good measure) yesterday in reference to my opinions relative to yours. This proves that that they were wrong.

That was just a joke specifically about Steve using a derogatory nickname and your tendency to use lots more of them. No offense meant to either of you.

And to add insult to injury, isn’t the Yankee mission statement to win the world Series every year?

This is a thoroughly unrealistic goal that should not be taken seriously.

Steve Lombardi wrote:

Thus, yes, the Yanks were in 1st or 2nd those season, but, they didn’t have 3 or 4 teams fighting them hard for it.

And my point, is why is it an issue now? The Jays have been so-so to terrible since 95. The O’s since 98, the Rays since their inception the same year (save for 2008), and the Sox have been so-so to great during from ’95 on. So I’m not quite sure as to why 2005-08 is being targeted, when it has been that way for the duration of the run.

My point on the AL East, circa 2005-2007.

The O’s and Rays were bad, very bad. That’s 38 games that are easy. Toronto was so-so. That’s 19 games that should be easy for a team with a $200 payroll. So, by playing in the A.L. East, from 2005 to 2007, the Yankees had ~60 games a year where the comp was not that tough. That’s 1/3 of the schedule. Thus, yes, the Yanks were in 1st or 2nd those season, but, they didn’t have 3 or 4 teams fighting them hard for it.

Anyhow, the losses in this series were unlucky, weren’t they? I mean, two one run games, a fair ball here and there, and boom, Yankees take the series. Right Steve?

@ Steve Lombardi:

But as was shown, they beat up on their division mates last year, but missed the playoffs. They were 11-7 against the AL Champion Rays. So I’m still unclear as to the point. Especially considering that lack of inta-division competition has been an issue since 1993, maybe?

Considering that the Al has been considered the stronger league for the last 5-7 years, and the AL East has been considered its toughest division pretty much yearly since 2002, I’m really not sure what you are getting at, Steve.