• ‘Sado & Joba Not On Same Page

    Posted by on June 14th, 2009 · Comments (5)

    Via Marc Carig:

    Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain pinned his problems during Friday night’s 9-8 victory over the Mets on his lack of rhythm on the mound.

    Perhaps there was an easy explanation, as Chamberlain and catcher Jorge Posada spent a good portion of the game crossed up. On several occasions, Chamberlain shook off signs from Posada and the catcher had to come to the mound to clear things up.

    The miscommunication was enough to catch the eye of manager Joe Girardi, who Saturday said he intends to address the issue with the pitcher and catcher, who clearly weren’t on the same page.

    “It seemed at times they were not,” Girardi said. “It seemed that Joba was out of sync. It always seems when you’re throwing strikes, pitchers work faster. But it did seem at times they had some difficulty, and that will be discussed.”

    Though they acknowledged their difficulties, Posada and Chamberlain played down the issue.

    “There’s not much to say,” Chamberlain said. “We all know what went on. It’s not like I’m mad at him and he’s mad at me or anything. It’s just one of those things that happened.”

    Chamberlain said the disagreements were over “a little bit of everything,” although most of them centered around pitch selection. The decisions in question were often whether to throw a fastball or a slider.

    Saturday, Chamberlain said he lamented not throwing more fastballs. Still, he said wasn’t comfortable throwing pitches that he wasn’t fully on board with.

    “You look at it as you want one thing, he wants another,” Chamberlain said. “But like I said, you have to throw it with conviction. That’s kind of the battle. He may see something. But even if he sees it, that doesn’t necessarily mean you want to throw it. That may be the right pitch but you may not feel comfortable with it that day, or so on and so forth.”

    This is not the first time that a Yankees pitcher and Jorge Posada have banged heads on pitching calling.

    In The Fielding Bible — Volume II, there was an essay on how and why the Yankees pitchers liked to throw to Jose Molina. And, it included a study on “Earned Runs Saved By Catcher.” The findings there was that Posada was costing the Yankees pitchers runs – albeit based on 2008 data and Jorge did not catch a lot last season. It will be interesting to see the same study run on the 2009 Yankees catchers, when the season is cover.

    Comments on ‘Sado & Joba Not On Same Page

    1. Raf
      June 14th, 2009 | 11:13 am

      I was thinking more Nook LaLoosh & Crash Davis.

      Anyway, I’d have to agree with Posada, Joba was getting a bit too slider happy. Get ahead with the fastball, get them out on the slider. Show the change and curve to keep batters honest 2nd or 3rd time through the order.

    2. June 14th, 2009 | 1:02 pm

      The Yankees have to pull the plug on Posada as a catcher. He has been DESTROYING this team for years with his inability to call a game correctly. Notice how this pitching staff started to go south the second he returned behind the plate. They’ll never do it, because he inexplicably seems to run the organization, but the wise move would be to let Molina catch full-time once he comes back. Otherwise the Yankees will continue to be haunted by outings like the ones we have seen these past two weeks. Posada is the problem, not the pitchers.

    3. BOHAN
      June 15th, 2009 | 3:09 am

      id have to agree with joba on this issue… being a former pitcher myslef on the collegiate level…. if u dont feel confident throwing a pitch with conviction or with confidence you shouldnt throw it… that only leads to u hanging a pitch or throwing a ball down the middle… when it comes to molina cathing full time i have to disagree… u cant take a bat like jorge’s out of the lineup just cause hr might not call a game as well as molina.. thats ridiculous

    4. G.I. Joey
      June 16th, 2009 | 11:49 am

      Apparently CC and Burnett don’t want to throw to him either.

    5. Raf
      June 16th, 2009 | 12:25 pm

      @ BOHAN:

      I agree to an extent. At the collegiate level is one thing, but in this instance where Chamberlain is still learning the league, I would think more pitches would be called from Posada as well as the bench. I thought in his previous start that Chamberlain was throwing far too many breaking pitches and nibbling. That shouldn’t happen with a pitcher with his stuff.

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