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		<title>By: Pat F</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/06/21/june-20th-the-marlins/comment-page-1/#comment-210836</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to agree with yagotta here.  part of baseball is getting gifts, because it evens out when you give gifts like damon last night.</description>
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		<title>By: Tresh Fan</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/06/21/june-20th-the-marlins/comment-page-1/#comment-210833</link>
		<dc:creator>Tresh Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Evan3457&lt;/b&gt;:

Awesome work, Evan!  That&#039;s why you make the big bucks ;)</description>
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<p>Awesome work, Evan!  That&#8217;s why you make the big bucks <img src='http://waswatching.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Evan3457</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan3457</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Tresh Fan&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;What I thought interesting is that the Yankees collected only 5 hits but still managed to ground into 3 double plays (and it could have been four!). Which leads me to wonder if a team—and particularily, a Yankees team—has ever had a game where it had as many as 5 base hits and at least 5 GIDPs. It must have happened sometime, don’t you think?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yanks have never done that, but other teams have.

A quick search using the Team Batting Game Finder on Baseball-Reference shows the following:

Yanks have had 3 games in the last 55 years in which they got 4 hits, and grounded into 5 DP; 5/8/74 vs the Red Sox in Fenway, 8/28/77 at home vs. the Rangers (and they won a title in 1977), and most recently, 8/18/91 at vs. the White Sox.

The Yanks have had two games in which they had 6 DP, but they 12 hits and 4 BB in the 1st, and 9 hits and 5 BB in the other. Oddly enough, the Yanks won BOTH games. 

As for opponents, the Yanks have had 9 games where they held their opponents to 5 hits or less, and turned at least 4 GIDP.  In 1964, they 2-hit the Senators (with 5 BB) and turned 4 DP. The big one was just 3 years ago, when Wang shutout the A&#039;s 2-0 on May 12th, holding them to just 4 hits and 3 BB, while still inducing 5 GIDP.

The all-time champ for &quot;GIDP efficiency&quot; was the 1964 Mets who, on May 5 in Milwaukee, grounded into 5 DP on only 4 hits and 2 walks in a 6-0 shutout by Warren Spahn of the Braves. They had no HBP, and the Braves made no errors, so the Mets had a total of 6 baserunners and didn&#039;t score, but only left one runner on base for the game. Two interesting additional facts on that game:

1) The Mets did all of their rally-killing work in the 1st 6 innings; Spahn retired them 1-2-3 in the 7th, 8th, and 9th.
2) The Braves 1st baseman that day, and therefore the only fielder to participate in all 5 GIDP, was a 24-year-old part-time catcher named Joe Torre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Evan3457');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_210813','Evan3457');" /></div><span id="co_210813"><p><b>Tresh Fan</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>What I thought interesting is that the Yankees collected only 5 hits but still managed to ground into 3 double plays (and it could have been four!). Which leads me to wonder if a team—and particularily, a Yankees team—has ever had a game where it had as many as 5 base hits and at least 5 GIDPs. It must have happened sometime, don’t you think?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yanks have never done that, but other teams have.</p>
<p>A quick search using the Team Batting Game Finder on Baseball-Reference shows the following:</p>
<p>Yanks have had 3 games in the last 55 years in which they got 4 hits, and grounded into 5 DP; 5/8/74 vs the Red Sox in Fenway, 8/28/77 at home vs. the Rangers (and they won a title in 1977), and most recently, 8/18/91 at vs. the White Sox.</p>
<p>The Yanks have had two games in which they had 6 DP, but they 12 hits and 4 BB in the 1st, and 9 hits and 5 BB in the other. Oddly enough, the Yanks won BOTH games. </p>
<p>As for opponents, the Yanks have had 9 games where they held their opponents to 5 hits or less, and turned at least 4 GIDP.  In 1964, they 2-hit the Senators (with 5 BB) and turned 4 DP. The big one was just 3 years ago, when Wang shutout the A&#8217;s 2-0 on May 12th, holding them to just 4 hits and 3 BB, while still inducing 5 GIDP.</p>
<p>The all-time champ for &#8220;GIDP efficiency&#8221; was the 1964 Mets who, on May 5 in Milwaukee, grounded into 5 DP on only 4 hits and 2 walks in a 6-0 shutout by Warren Spahn of the Braves. They had no HBP, and the Braves made no errors, so the Mets had a total of 6 baserunners and didn&#8217;t score, but only left one runner on base for the game. Two interesting additional facts on that game:</p>
<p>1) The Mets did all of their rally-killing work in the 1st 6 innings; Spahn retired them 1-2-3 in the 7th, 8th, and 9th.<br />
2) The Braves 1st baseman that day, and therefore the only fielder to participate in all 5 GIDP, was a 24-year-old part-time catcher named Joe Torre.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottagotomo1</title>
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		<dc:creator>yagottagotomo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ ken&lt;/b&gt;:
I hate the bunt also (which Jeter almost certainly did on his own, as usual), but if there is ever a good spot to bunt with DJ, that is it- where you need one run late in a game and the bunt will put a runner at third with less than two outs. I dont like it, but it is not the worst move.</description>
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I hate the bunt also (which Jeter almost certainly did on his own, as usual), but if there is ever a good spot to bunt with DJ, that is it- where you need one run late in a game and the bunt will put a runner at third with less than two outs. I dont like it, but it is not the worst move.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Jeter squared to bunt in the 8th inning I was screaming at the TV. One of the most clutch hitters on the team is forced to give up an at bat. And I don&#039;t count his eventual GIDP because the bunts cheated him of a true AB. The game was lost right there.</description>
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		<title>By: yagottagotomo1</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/06/21/june-20th-the-marlins/comment-page-1/#comment-210800</link>
		<dc:creator>yagottagotomo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Tresh Fan&lt;/b&gt;:
It&#039;s funny, you would think that it would have happened, but I bet it hasn&#039;t. Every year some strange stuff happens, and Jayson Stark tells us that it was the first time in MLB history. Baseball is an awesome game.</description>
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It&#8217;s funny, you would think that it would have happened, but I bet it hasn&#8217;t. Every year some strange stuff happens, and Jayson Stark tells us that it was the first time in MLB history. Baseball is an awesome game.</p>
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		<title>By: Tresh Fan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I thought interesting is that the Yankees collected only 5 hits but still managed to ground into 3 double plays (and it could have been four!).   Which leads me to wonder if a team---and particularily, a Yankees team---has ever had a game where it had as many as 5 base hits and at least 5 GIDPs.  It must have happened sometime, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Tresh Fan');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_210798','Tresh Fan');" /></div><span id="co_210798"><p>What I thought interesting is that the Yankees collected only 5 hits but still managed to ground into 3 double plays (and it could have been four!).   Which leads me to wonder if a team&#8212;and particularily, a Yankees team&#8212;has ever had a game where it had as many as 5 base hits and at least 5 GIDPs.  It must have happened sometime, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: yagottagotomo1</title>
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		<dc:creator>yagottagotomo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I understand that Castillo&#039;s was pretty bad, but if that error had happened in the same spot in the third inning, I doubt you would have called it a gift, you would be counting that game as a regular win. The Yankees put runners on base and created the situation. It was certainly a lucky play, but no more so than any dropped flyball at any point in any game. It just came at a good time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('yagottagotomo1');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_210796','yagottagotomo1');" /></div><span id="co_210796"><p>Also, I understand that Castillo&#8217;s was pretty bad, but if that error had happened in the same spot in the third inning, I doubt you would have called it a gift, you would be counting that game as a regular win. The Yankees put runners on base and created the situation. It was certainly a lucky play, but no more so than any dropped flyball at any point in any game. It just came at a good time.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottagotomo1</title>
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		<dc:creator>yagottagotomo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Willy Aybar= gift, but Johnny Damon&#039;s play last night doesn&#039;t?</description>
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