• Marlins Flagged For Ineligible Defender In Leftfield?

    Posted by on June 21st, 2009 · Comments (8)

    The skinny on what went down in the eighth inning today during the Yankees-Marlins game, via mlb.com -

    The Yankees have protested the game due to confusion created by a Marlins’ double-switch in the top of the eighth inning.

    In the bottom of the seventh inning, the Marlins pinch-hit outfielder Alejandro De Aza for pitcher Renyel Pinto, who was batting ninth. When the inning ended, Florida manager Fredi Gonzalez made a double-switch. Reliever Leo Nunez entered the game, and Chris Coghlan remained in left field.

    Nunez threw one pitch to Derek Jeter, a called strike. At that point, Yankees manager Joe Girardi brought to the attention of home plate umpire Tim Timmons that Coghlan was supposed to be out of the game, with De Aza in left field.

    For more than five minutes play was delayed, eventually with Coghlan leaving the field. De Aza headed to left field, only to be replaced by Jeremy Hermida.

    After more discussion, it was determined that both Coghlan and De Aza were no longer available. So the mistake cost the Marlins two players, with Hermida remaining in the game and slotted ninth. Nunez was placed in the leadoff spot.

    Crew chief Jeff Kellogg told MLB.com after the game that the umpires are filing an incident report to Major League Baseball. He didn’t elaborate on anything specific.

    “We’re going to file an incident report, and all that,” Kellogg said. “The protest is over the pitcher should have been removed from the game, or the pitch should not have counted. That’s the protest. Either or. One or the other should have happened.

    “It goes to the league, and they will review everything. They will make a determination after that.”

    What the Yankees are hoping is the game is resumed from the top of the eighth inning, no outs, with the Marlins ahead, 6-3.

    When Girardi was asked if he hoped the Yankees would return to Miami to resume the game in the eighth inning, he responded: “I do.”

    Here’s the tricky part: The Yankees had Jeter, Swisher and Teixeira bat in the 8th inning. And, they had Robertson pitch in the bottom of the 8th – as he entered the game in the 7th inning. Later, the Yankees had A-Rod, Cano, Posada, Cabrera, Gardner, Damon and Jeter bat in the 9th inning.

    If they do resume this game, some time in July, August or September, what happens if one of those players is not available to the Yankees? You cannot use a player who has not on the Yankees roster today when your resume this game at a later date. Same deal applies to the Marlins players from today.

    I know that, technically, the Yankees have a case here. But, I doubt that MLB will want deal with all the wild things that can happen if this game is allowed to be picked up again from the 8th inning. Therefore, I expect the league to sweep this one under the rug…saying that losing Alejandro De Aza for the game was the Marlins penalty here and that’s it.

    Besides, I don’t see how going down to Miami, for one day, in July or August, to play two innings of baseball, is going to be a good thing for the Yankees.

    Comments on Marlins Flagged For Ineligible Defender In Leftfield?

    1. Raf
      June 21st, 2009 | 11:22 pm

      I’d like to file a protest for Girardi bringing in Tomko :p

    2. thenewguy
      June 21st, 2009 | 11:23 pm

      Besides, I don’t see how going down to Miami, for one day, in July or August, to play two innings of baseball, is going to be a good thing for the Yankees.
      ———–

      Everything else you said makes sense, but this doesn’t. Sure, no one wants to make the extra trip down to Miami to play 2 innings of baseball that probably won’t change the outcome of the game that was played today. That said, if the Yankees lose the division by a single game, then what? Exactly. That’s why you take every single opportunity you have to get a win… no matter how silly and futile it may seem before the replay. If we were to win the replayed game, there is no question how we would feel about the Yankees decision to protest this game.

    3. JeremyM
      June 22nd, 2009 | 1:23 am

      I agree with Raf. DFA this guy already, as bad as Veras was he should’ve stuck longer than Tomko.

      I don’t see the Yanks doing better than they did in the two innings the got. The tying runner on third with Johnny Damon and then Jeter at the plate isn’t the worst spot to be in, Jeter just wasn’t able to deliver again.

    4. MJ
      June 22nd, 2009 | 9:17 am

      Jeter just wasn’t able to deliver again.
      ——
      Did you just call Jeter un-clutch? Lord knows if A-Rod had grounded out weakly, we’d be nailing him to the cross right now…

    5. ken
      June 22nd, 2009 | 10:12 am

      JeremyM wrote:

      I agree with Raf. DFA this guy already, as bad as Veras was he should’ve stuck longer than Tomko.

      No one is as bad as Veras. (Except maybe Farnsy). Both these guys have ‘great stuff’ but no nerve.

      Tomko seems to have some nerve but not as good stuff.

      I’ll take Tomko.

    6. Raf
      June 22nd, 2009 | 10:16 am

      Veras can be used the same way Tomko was used. Tomko has already established his level of talent over the duration of his career, which has spanned years and several organizations.

      Neither option is particularly appealing, but I’d rather have Veras.

    7. OnceIWasAYankeeFan
      June 22nd, 2009 | 10:17 am

      I couldn’t find it in the rule book but it seems to me there is no way the league upholds the protest. To summarize:

      An outfielder who had been removed was on the field for one pitch.
      A pitcher who was properly inserted made that pitch.

      Why would both players be penalized? Its not a lineup error involving the pitcher coming to bat, his team was on defense and he was in the right place.

      On the other hand, removing the player who took the field when he shouldn’t, plus the guy who didn’t take the field when he was supposed to, makes perfect sense. No way the pitcher gets penalized, unless someone can show me that in the rule book or umpire’s guide.

    8. butchie22
      June 22nd, 2009 | 10:54 am

      MJ wrote:

      Jeter just wasn’t able to deliver again.
      ——
      Did you just call Jeter un-clutch? Lord knows if A-Rod had grounded out weakly, we’d be nailing him to the cross right now…

      Jeter has 4 rings, built good will with the fans as a Yankee his entire career and has been clutch,is doing well this year AND Arod hasn’t/isn’t! The fact that Jeter was unclutch seems to be the anomaly not the rule, that’s why there is hardly any brouhaha regarding his unclutchness in Miami. Case closed. The perception is that Jeter is Captain Clutch and Arod is quite simply not.Arod is under a much different type of scruntiny than ST Derek is. As overrated as Jeter is, he knows how to act publicly and on the field whereas Arod is such a bloody mess. Yankee fans took it to stupid levels when they were booing Arod at homestands BUT look at the way Afrod goes about his business compared to St Derek…light and day.

      This game is a goner. The Yankees should cut their losses and move on. Steve, you’re right it’s not a good thing to play 2 innings on an off day in July or August. One of the strange quirks of interleague if you ask me.They have other games to play and win and I believe they should leave this one behind.

      Raf, I’m not a Tomko fan either BUT who else can Girardi use,how many times? Aceves some more? Phil Choke?quite honestly, who else is there to use? I still agree with you assessment in reference to Tomko though……I would rather have Veras as well.

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