my fault, i read that as last year disregard my last few comments haha

http://waswatching.com/2008/08/07/moose-im-the-sole-survivor/

wasn’t it his shoulder?
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Maybe it was. I just googled “Andy Pettitte shoulder” and nothing came up for the last month of news. If he’s battling an injury this year — other than the lower back stiffness that took him out of his start against the Mets — it hasn’t been reported so, in my mind, that’s not a valid excuse.

what more can you expect from a #4?
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Nothing. Which is why I said “[f]or a #4/#5 starter, I guess he’s no worse than average but, really, if Andy threatens retirement again this year, wish him the best and show him the door.”

Remember, people were hurling insults at Cashman for taking a harder stance with Pettitte during contract negotiations and others were certain that Pettitte’s 2nd half was purely due to injury and not age/decline. This is who Andy is now. He’s an average pitcher. That’s fine, as long as you go into it knowing that. But, like I said, if Andy wants to feel insulted again next year when the Yanks don’t fluff him and beg him to come back, he should remember why.

MJ wrote:

I never said Pettitte was the team’s biggest problem. I’m just pointing out that since his third start back in April, he’s been more or less horrendous in most of his starts, with only two good starts in between. If everyone wants to give Pettitte a pass because he’s a great guy and because of the wonderful memories, that’s fine. If everyone wants to blame the new ballpark for all his woes, that’s fine. I googled “Andy Pettite elbow” and “Andy Pettitte injury” and got no mentions of him pitching hurt this year, other than when he left that start due to back stiffness. Let’s not create a new excuse now.
May/June: 62.2 IP, 5.00 ERA, 1.73 WHIP
Home: 41 IP, 6.36 ERA, 1.85 WHIP
Road: 21.2 IP, 2.54 ERA, 1.55 WHIP
Too many baserunners, both home and road.
For A-Rod, this website offers no excuses. For Andy Pettitte, this website cites ballpark factor and some nebulous injury. Comical.

wasn’t it his shoulder? Also, the year before that his numbers would have been a ton better if not for getting completely lit up in his last start

Hey, agreed, on the whole, Pettitte’s just an average pitcher now – as his 1 RSAA in 90 IP says he is…but, again, if he’s your 4th starter (behind CC, AJ and Wang) as he was slated to be at the start of the year, what more can you expect from a #4?

Steve Lombardi wrote:

Pettitte’s got World Champoinship play equity in Yankeeland. That helps allow for a buddy pass today.

I respect your right to believe it but, for my money, championship equity is a poorly-crafted excuse. I much prefer Boston’s view of championship equity. New York’s is antiquated, overly sentimental, and ultimately a detrmiment to running the business.

We all respect championships here, but Andy is looking like a player at the end of his road. I believe he is one of the rotation guys who stated that the he is uncomfortable pitching in the new Yankee Stadium, which I find troubling. The flyballs rate that Raf mentioned is an indicator we should all worry about.

Pettitte’s allowing more flyballs as well; highest rate ever in his career.

Pettitte’s got World Champoinship play equity in Yankeeland. That helps allow for a buddy pass today.