• Taking The Fifth On The Matter Of Batting Fifth

    Posted by Steve Lombardi on July 1st 2009 · Comments (7)

    Today, Peter Abraham and Matthew Schweber ring in on the topic of batting Robinson Cano fifth in the Yankees line-up.

    Well, here’s a nugget for you on this topic, via Baseball Musings Day By Day Database. It’s “RBI Percentage” since the start of the 2006 season through last night.

    ["RBI Percentage" is 100*(RBI-HR)/Runners On]

    Robinson Cano RBI% = 14.84
    Alex Rodriguez RBI% = 16.88

    Is there really that much of a difference between 15% and 17%?

    What is that…like nine RBI per season? (I’m not sure – that’s why I’m asking.)

    O.K., I’ll just hang up now and listen to your reaction…

    Comments on Taking The Fifth On The Matter Of Batting Fifth

    1. Corey
      July 1st, 2009 | 2:34 pm

      i bet if you ran it from 2008-> the numbers might look a bit different. Cause Cano had a monster 06, and a-rod had a monster 07

    2. July 1st, 2009 | 2:47 pm

      Cano had a terrible 2008 – and still is close to A-Rod here, no?

    3. July 1st, 2009 | 2:51 pm

      FWIW, even with Cano’s terrible 2008, here are the #’s from O.D. 2008 thru last night:

      A-Rod: 15.5
      Cano: 13.52

      It’s 14% vs. 16%

    4. Corey
      July 1st, 2009 | 3:00 pm

      interesting, i woulda thought cano’s terrible ‘08 woulda made that number drop. And personally, I felt A-rod’s % woulda went up a little as I don’t remember him being that bad last year. I guess the only difference really is that cano doesnt hit as many bombs

    5. July 1st, 2009 | 5:07 pm

      Here’s a different look at it:

      Since 2006, Cano’s OBP with RISP is below .300. A-Rod’s is significantly above .400. One of these players is making fewer outs and improving his team’s chances to win; the other is not. The thing about RBI% is that there’s not a huge variance between the top and the bottom. A-Rod does an above-average job of keeping the line moving while Cano is below average.

    6. July 1st, 2009 | 5:14 pm

      Do you really want the middle of your order to keep the line moving and passing the burden to drive in runners to the bottom, and weaker third, of your line-up? Or, do you want your four and five hitters to drive in runs when guys are on base in front of them?

      Of course, many have different takes on this. I would bet that the stat crowd wants OBP over anything else whereas the baseball crowd wants guys in the middle of their line-up to swing the bat and drive in runs.

      Which is right? As usual, it’s probably some where in the middle. You want guys who do a little of both while not being one extreme one way or the other.

    7. July 3rd, 2009 | 8:49 pm

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