• Why Are Yanks Pitchers Throwing So Many Pitches?

    Posted by on July 7th, 2009 · Comments (3)

    Here are the Yankees pitchers, to date, in terms of innings pitched, batteres faced (PA), pitches thrown, pitches thrown per inning pitched, pitches thrown per batter faced and pitches thrown per seven innings pitched:

    PITCHER	        IP	PA	Pit	P/IP	P/PA	P/7IP
    A. Claggett	1.6	16	60	37.5	3.75	263
    Damaso Marte	5.3	30	117	22.1	3.90	155
    Edwar Ramirez	17.3	86	355	20.5	4.13	144
    Mark Melancon	3.3	18	64	19.4	3.56	136
    David Robertson	20.3	85	386	19.0	4.54	133
    Jose Veras	25.6	118	482	18.8	4.08	132
    Chien-Ming Wang	42.0	206	742	17.7	3.60	124
    Brett Tomko	17.3	71	301	17.4	4.24	122
    J. Chamberlain	84.6	378	1462	17.3	3.87	121
    J. Albaladejo	23.3	105	401	17.2	3.82	120
    Andy Pettitte	103.3	456	1752	17.0	3.84	119
    Philip Hughes	49.3	211	829	16.8	3.93	118
    Brian Bruney	15.3	66	257	16.8	3.89	118
    A.J. Burnett	101.0	432	1687	16.7	3.91	117
    Mariano Rivera	34.6	135	565	16.3	4.19	114
    Phil Coke	36.3	139	565	15.6	4.06	109
    CC Sabathia	114.6	470	1774	15.5	3.77	108
    Alfredo Aceves	40.0	156	577	14.4	3.70	101
    

    Ideally, you want you pitcher to only throw about 15 or 16 pitches per inning pitched. For a starting pitcher, this would mean that he would throw 105-112 pitches over seven innings. And, as you can see from the chart above, only Mariano Rivera, Phil Coke, CC Sabathia, and Alfredo Aceves come close to that targeted rate. (A.J. Burnett is just outside this mark, for what it’s worth.)

    But, clearly, Chien-Ming Wang, Joba Chamberlain and Andy Pettitte seem to be laboring more than you would want to see from your starting pitchers – in terms of P/IP – and this is why they’re only going five or six innings per start.

    It’s O.K. to have one guy in your rotation be a five-and-fly kinda-guy. But, when you have three pitchers like that in your rotation, eventually, you’re going to cook your bullpen.

    Now, granted, some of this may be the fallout of the new Yankee Stadium – where pitchers without the “stuff” of Rivera, Sabathia, and Burnett, or, without the command of Aceves, have to work harder and throw more pitches.

    Nonethless, it seems like too many key pitchers on the Yankees are having to work too hard – in terms of the number of pitches that they have to throw, etc. And, if New York is smart, they’ll figure out what the issue is here – and address it, with a correction, soon.

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    Comments on Why Are Yanks Pitchers Throwing So Many Pitches?

    1. Corey
      July 7th, 2009 | 10:19 am

      feels like joba throws even more pitches then that

    2. MJ
      July 7th, 2009 | 11:05 am

      I’d be curious to know if there’s a home/road disparity on P/IP for guys like Joba and Pettitte who are getting rocked at home all the time.

    3. Evan3457
      July 7th, 2009 | 11:26 am

      1. Strikeout pitchers, especially younger pitchers with command issues, like Joba, Hughes, Bruney, Robertson (who seems to go 2-2 or 3-2 on everyone before he gets them). Also Burnett had serious command issues earlier. Yanks lead the league in pitcher’s K’s, and are also 3rd in walks allowed.

      2. The ballpark. More pitches to avoid contact altogether.

      3. Pitchcalling; for example, calling for more offspeed pitches, which are usually harder to command. Possibly due to #2 above.

      4. Chien-Ming Wang’s collapse to ineffectiveness. If he had been right this season, the team average would be measurably lower.

      Corrections? For the young pitchers, let them mature. That’s all you can do, besides culling out the ones you don’t think can make it, and fobbing them off on someone else before their trade value is gone altogether.

      Wang? Hope he heals. However, the odds are now very low he’ll ever be back to what he was.

      Pitchcalling? I dunno; Jorge’s a proud dude. But you might have to take away pitchcalling from him and give it to the bench, or the pitchers. Or just phase him more to DH next year.

      The ballpark….ah, now this we have covered before. They were probably going to do something about this for next year anyway.

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