WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 7/16/09

Posted by Steve Lombardi on July 16th, 2009 · Comments (18)

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Comments on WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 7/16/09

  1. clintfsu813
    July 16th, 2009 | 8:23 am

    With all the talk about possibly signing Holliday or Bay, havent heard much about the other CC, Carl Crawford. Thoughts about this?

  2. YankCrank
    July 16th, 2009 | 9:14 am

    Please Yankees, please pass on Holliday and Bay.

    Looks like the Rays still have a club option with him for 2010, for $10 million. If he were a free agent i’d much rather go after him than Bay or Holliday. But that would be a tough fight, a lot of big market teams need a left fielder who can steal 60+ bases.

  3. Corey
    July 16th, 2009 | 9:19 am

    i’m honestly not that big on crawford…he’s a nice player, but i don’t think he’ll be worth the money he’ll command.

  4. clintfsu813
    July 16th, 2009 | 9:53 am

    Crank- I get Holliday..but why not Bay?

  5. butchie22
    July 16th, 2009 | 10:21 am

    clintfsu813 wrote:

    Crank- I get Holliday..but why not Bay?

    I second that one! The Yanks will go full throttle when he hits the free agent market. I had heard something about Bay having iffy knees, BUT that won’t stop Cash Man and Co. Holliday is not a superstar he is portrayed to be, BUT Bay? People are marveling that he took over from Manram in an almost seamless fashion. The Red Sox want to keep him and it seems unlikely that he signs with them, because he could make much more signing with the Yanks. When CC(not Charlie Cheeseburger) is a free agent, I think that the Yankees will of course be players in that. BUT that is in 2011, not next year.

    And for the Crawford fans, why would Friedman give the Yanks Crawford for? Salary relief? I really don’t think that now they are a contender, they would trade in division. BUT the Yanks are players when he hits the market no doubt. But that money never stopped them from signing anybody before, so they would probably sign Bay and CC when they are available.

  6. YankCrank
    July 16th, 2009 | 11:03 am

    Crank- I get Holliday..but why not Bay?
    —–

    I’m not big on Bay because he’ll be 31 and we’d be paying him big money for his decline years, he’s an atrocious fielder (-18.2 UZR/150 with Boston last year, a -10.4 this year) and if we’re going to pay big money for a LF to replace Damon’s atrocious fielding, I think we can do better than that.

  7. YankCrank
    July 16th, 2009 | 11:04 am

    Honestly, Bay guy has 5 yards of ground in LF at Fenway and still can’t cover it well.

  8. ken
    July 16th, 2009 | 11:38 am

    Not to take away from Bay’s skills which I do respect, but his offense is enhanced by the wall. Same for Lowell. Those guys have taken their game to the next level because of playing half their games in Fenway. My guess is he will likely be looking for 15M/yr for 5 yrs. The Yankees could be stupid enough to do that.

  9. YankCrank
    July 16th, 2009 | 11:46 am

    My guess is he will likely be looking for 15M/yr for 5 yrs. The Yankees could be stupid enough to do that.
    ——-

    Yes they could, I will be infuriated if they do that.

    On another note, isn’t it weird how the wall in Fenway has been known to enhance careers where the short porch in YS has been known to hurt them? Look at Giambi and how he became so pull-conscience as a Yankee.

  10. will
    July 16th, 2009 | 2:20 pm

    mentioned on a Klap piece. Nice

  11. G.I. Joey
    July 16th, 2009 | 2:37 pm

    Looks like David Cone will be testifying as one of the majority witnesses during the confirmation hearings of Judge Sotomayor. Apparently the temporary injunction she issued in 1995 ended the baseball strike.

  12. nwyank
    July 16th, 2009 | 3:06 pm

    Hey Steve – any predictions on the 2nd half?
    At the beginning of the season you expressed doubt that the Red Sox pitching staff was much better than the Yanks. What thinks you now?

    3rd place team. The young Yankees are not stars and probably never will be. Not enough key players in their prime. The “big 3″ Hughes, Joba, and IPK (should be RPI as in Run Per Inning) have been a disappointment. So they are good at getting 3 outs in the 8th. Big deal.
    I wonder if the experts at NoMaas are still arguing via minor league stats that Hughes is better than Lester.
    Still, the team is loaded with talent and that alone will win lots of games. Just seems to me that the team is less than the sum of its parts.

  13. Corey
    July 16th, 2009 | 3:24 pm

    @ nwyank:
    u typo’d “Wild Card leading team”, but it’s ok i forgive you :P

  14. Corey
    July 16th, 2009 | 3:25 pm

    @ nwyank:
    funny…you coulda posted that exact comment last year and it woulda worked

  15. July 16th, 2009 | 5:29 pm

    will wrote:

    mentioned on a Klap piece. Nice

    Thanks – I haven’t seen that yet. Have a link?

  16. Raf
    July 16th, 2009 | 5:29 pm

    ken wrote:

    Not to take away from Bay’s skills which I do respect, but his offense is enhanced by the wall. Same for Lowell.

    Their H/R splits disagree with you.

  17. Raf
    July 16th, 2009 | 5:41 pm

    Speaking of H/R splits, I took a look at Dave Collins’ H/R splits in 1982

    H: .281-.348/.389 (.737)
    R: .221-.277/ .264 (.541)

    Weird at how he could hit at home, but not on the road.

  18. Corey
    July 16th, 2009 | 6:26 pm

    speaking of dave colins’ i looked him up at b-r cause you mentioned his name, (Before my time) and he got traded away with fred mcgriff for 2 no-names (remember i’m lookin at purely numbers and have never seen these guys play)

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