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    • No, It Can’t Be? Whitey & Brown? Really?

    Posted by on July 19th, 2009 · Comments (9)

    I was just playing around with the Complete Baseball Encyclopedia and I set the filters on the sort career pitching stats function to:

    GAMES STARTED >= 400, and ERA >= 1 vs. the league average,
    and BASERUNNERS/9 IP <= 1.9 vs. the league average
    with NEUTRAL WINS displayed only and INNINGS PITCHED displayed only

    and this is what I got:

    Pitcher             RSAA      GS       ERA      N_W    BR/9 IP  IP
1    Whitey Ford     321      438     1.10      214     1.41    3171
2    Kevin Brown     304      476     1.03      218     1.50    3256.1

    If you're not sure what any of these stats are, click here.

    I never would have thought of Kevin Brown and Whitey Ford as being on the same page...would you have?

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    Comments on No, It Can’t Be? Whitey & Brown? Really?

    1. Raf
      July 19th, 2009 | 10:12 pm

      Kevin Brown was better than many people gave him credit for.
    2. Corey
      July 20th, 2009 | 10:14 am

      and brown was also juicing
    3. Steve Lombardi
      July 20th, 2009 | 10:35 am

      Brown would probably say that Ford was scuffing the baseball…
    4. Raf
      July 20th, 2009 | 10:47 am

      Link to Fangraphs article on Kevin Brown
    5. Raf
      July 20th, 2009 | 11:01 am

      He shouldn’t have punched that wall in Baltimore. I’m still annoyed that he did that. Up to that point he was having a decent season, despite missing time, so I’m not even sure why he was so pissed.

      Just a weird season. That was the first time I’ve heard of a player missing time with a parasite, and I think the Yanks had two in Brown and Giambi.
    6. MJ
      July 20th, 2009 | 11:35 am

      Kevin Brown was better than many people gave him credit for.
      ———
      Do you mean in general or in New York?
    7. MJ
      July 20th, 2009 | 11:35 am

      MJ wrote:

      Kevin Brown was better than many people gave him credit for.
      ———
      Do you mean in general or in New York?

      PS – I meant that as an honest question, I wasn’t trying to be a jerk.
    8. Raf
      July 20th, 2009 | 12:09 pm

      MJ wrote:

      Kevin Brown was better than many people gave him credit for.
      ———
      Do you mean in general or in New York?

      In NY. He was having a solid season for the Yanks, despite the time he missed with injury. Even the start that he had where he punched the wall, he did well, I think he threw a quality start that game. At the end of the day, he posted a 4.09 ERA (110 ERA+) to go with a 4.03 FIP.

      In 2005, he posted a 3.61 FIP, which is outstanding considering that he posted a 6.50 ERA.

      Unfortunately, his performance in the 2004 ALCS overshadows the work he did as a Yankee.
    9. Corey
      July 20th, 2009 | 12:18 pm

      the thing that struck me with Brown on the yanks was that he could never get through the 1st without giving up a run…and that aggravated the crap out of me. I especially found a dislike for the fact that they simulated a 1st inning for him before starts toward the end (like how they did with Joba that, what was it 1 time?)

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