Aug 07
The Twins have picked up Carl Pavano from the Indians.
So, here’s a wild thought: Given the Yankees need for a fifth starting pitcher, should New York had made a play to get Pavano? Or, if they had, would you have wanted Brian Cashman run out of town on a rail?
After all, we saw enough of Pavano in Yankeeland, didn’t we? Then again, those in support of the Yankees recent acquistion of Chad Gaudin are quick to say things like it’s better than nothing and why not try it and then ditch it if it doesn’t work…so, shouldn’t the same apply to Pavano? If not, then it seems silly to offer that logic toward any scrub pitcher the Yankees acquire between now and September 1st, no?
14 Responses to “Wild Thought: Pavano”
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August 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
pavano doesn’t deserve a world series ring.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I loathe the guy, but take his stats from this year..the stats not the person..and I think hes definitely better than Mitre (Dont call me My-ter) or Gaudin
August 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
But sometimes stats aren’t the only thing you have to consider when you’re talking about RE-acquiring a familiar face. If the reports are to be believed, NOBODY liked Pavano when he was on the Yanks. Why bring in someone that everyone hates — fans, media, teammates, coaches? That’s setting him up to fail.
When the Mets brought back Bobby Bonilla in 1999, I thought it was the dumbest thing ever. He was the poster-child for everything that sucked about the Mets in the Al Harazin era. To bring him back was to insult and torment Mets fans that had finally managed to get over those awful years.
August 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
FWIW, 2009 FIP
Joba: 4.76
Chad: 3.68
Sergio: 4.52
Pavano: 4.26
Anyway, for all we know maybe Cashman made a play for Pavano and was unsuccessful for whatever reason. Ponson was bought back, why not Pavano? It isn’t that far fetched an idea.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Ponson was bought back, why not Pavano? It isn’t that far fetched an idea.
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I reiterate that not all re-acquisitions are the same. Ponson’s presence didn’t antagonize everyone (fans, teammates, coaches, media) the way Pavano’s presence would. It’s just better to leave him alone. No one wants to revisit that marriage, him included.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
@ MJ:
I concur..You’re right about him possibly screwing up the great chemistry in the clubhouse.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
MJ wrote:
Right. Throw the stats out the door on this one. No way he’d be the same pitcher here as he was in Cleveland. Carl’d get booed off the mound and shredded in the press…and no knows it better than Carl himself.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
The team and front office dislike and have no respect for this guy. They won’t waste a millisecond thinking about it.
August 7th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
spot on mj, well said.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Corey wrote:
The Yanks already gave him one, by losing the 03 Series. Honestly, that is the loss that bugs me the most, because there was no excuse for it.
August 8th, 2009 at 2:00 am
I honestly thought the Yanks should have offered Pavano an incentive laden contract. I would have offered around $1 mil up front, and start and innings based performance bonus’s to get it up to around $5 mil. I would take him over Mitre any day, and as this season has proved again, you can never have enough pitching depth.
August 8th, 2009 at 5:03 am
Hello,
Chad Gaudin is 26, has 105 SO in 105 inning, walks too many, 4+/9. and a Fip of 3.68. So, he has upside and is under team control for cheap.
goodbye
August 9th, 2009 at 5:55 am
JeremyM wrote:
Randomness of a short series. Even with the Gonzalez cheapie, I wouldn’t have thought that David Wells back would act up preventing him from pitching further in game 5. I think that hurt more than the Weaver game.
August 9th, 2009 at 5:58 am
handtius wrote:
He also has a hard time with LHB (.819) OPS, so that may be part of the reason why he has worked and will be working out the pen for the time being.