• September 3rd @ The Blue Jays

    Posted by on September 3rd, 2009 · Comments (9)

    A somewhat meaningless September game for the Yankees, with Chad Gaudin on the mound starting for New York, against a poorly performing Toronto Blue Jays squad, to be played on fake grass…well…I could go on…but…if you watched all of this game, from the first pitch to the last, without missing any action in between, pat yourself on the back…because you are the committed Yankees fan in the world.

    At one point, in this one, it was looking like that Adam Lind liner off Alfredo Aceves in the bottom of the sixth, right at Melky Cabrera, to end that frame might have been one of the key moments in this contest. However, Jason Frasor’s meltdown for Toronto in the ninth, after two outs, made that point moot. And, in the end, for me, the talking points from this game come out of the performances of Brian Bruney and Jorge Posada.

    If Brian Bruney cannot be trusted to close out a 5-run lead in a low-pressure game such as this one…then he has no business being on the Yankees post-season roster this year. And, if New York has the cojones to exclude him from play in October…boy…won’t it be interesting to see Bruney’s reaction.

    On a more positive note. How about Jorge Posada? That big fly in the 9th inning gives him 8 seasons now with 20+ homeruns. The only catchers in baseball history with 8+ seasons of 20+ homers are Carlton Fisk (8), Gary Carter (9), Yogi Berra (10), and Johnny Bench and Mike Piazza (11 each). And, all of those aforementioned backstops are in Cooperstown or will be, soon.

    I’m beginning to think that Posada may find himself in the Hall of Fame as well – someday. I see it going down like this: After retirement, there will be a lot of talk, comparing him to Gabby Hartnett, while Jorge is on the writer’s ballot. But, Posada won’t be voted in by the BBWAA. It will be after Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter are elected to the Hall by the BBWAA, that Posada will get into Cooperstown, via the Veterans Committee…assisted by Jeter’s and Rivera’s lobbying. It will probably happen around the year 2035. In the meantime, all Jorge will have to do is keep his nose clean for the next 27 years. And, at the same time, New York should be careful not to give out #20 to any player who potentially might turn out to be a superstar player…as they may have to retire that puppy when Posada heads to the Hall.

    Comments on September 3rd @ The Blue Jays

    1. redbug
      September 4th, 2009 | 6:38 am

      The Yanks don’t need to worry about Bruney’s reaction if left off the PS roster. He’s not signed for next year. We got more than expected when he first came on, and as-expected since. As Michael Kay would say, “See Ya!”.

    2. JeremyM
      September 4th, 2009 | 8:16 am

      How is that Piazza has been able to emerge unscathed (so far) by the steroid era when stories have said that he was one of the biggest users around and likely in that Jose Canseco category where he would’ve been lucky to be a September call-up in the majors let alone a MVP.

    3. Raf
      September 4th, 2009 | 8:28 am

      Meh, wouldn’t be the first time Bruney was left off the postseason roster.

    4. MJ
      September 4th, 2009 | 8:35 am

      Bruney’s pitching like crap, there’s no doubt about that. But, as redbug said, he’s not signed for next year and he’s certainly provided more value than one could’ve reasonably expected from a waiver pick-up. It’s still not too late for him to turn his season around and make the playoff roster but at this point I wouldn’t bother.

    5. MJ
      September 4th, 2009 | 8:37 am

      Incidentally, as much as I like Jorge, he’s not a Hall of Famer in my eyes. A very good offensive catcher? Yes. A mainstay on some tremendous ballclubs? Yes. But not an all-time great. The Veterans Committee is ridiculous sometimes.

    6. Corey
      September 4th, 2009 | 9:18 am

      MJ wrote:

      Incidentally, as much as I like Jorge, he’s not a Hall of Famer in my eyes. A very good offensive catcher? Yes. A mainstay on some tremendous ballclubs? Yes. But not an all-time great. The Veterans Committee is ridiculous sometimes.

      agreed with every single thing in this statement.

      How about that change up by Camp ? (I think it was Camp, I was strugelling to stay awake at this point in the game) How many times have you guys ever seen a wild pitch go almost to third? If any, its not many. It’s sad to see a decent team like the Jays running through the motions.

      lol also, did anyone else see Jeter struggeling to get the donut off his bat? that got a chuckle outta me.

    7. Evan3457
      September 4th, 2009 | 12:45 pm

      Unless he collapses entirely, Bruney is unlikely to be left off the postseason roster.

      The postseason staff will likely be 11 pitchers:

      CC, AJ, Andy, Joba, Gaudin, Mo, Hughes, Marte, Coke, Bruney and Robertson.

    8. Evan3457
      September 4th, 2009 | 12:53 pm

      MJ wrote:

      Incidentally, as much as I like Jorge, he’s not a Hall of Famer in my eyes. A very good offensive catcher? Yes. A mainstay on some tremendous ballclubs? Yes. But not an all-time great. The Veterans Committee is ridiculous sometimes.

      He’s not a Hall of Famer as of right now. However, because of his relatively late start, he’s just reaching the point of his career where his total stats, especially games played at catcher (he’ll go over the 1700 game mark with 3 more seasons as a regular), HR and RBI, will begin to add significantly to his credentials.

      If he can hang on as the regular catcher for another 2-3 years, and the Yanks win another title or two, he’ll have a 50/50 shot or better of making the Hall of Fame at some point. (If the two things above happen, he’ll move past the median mark in both the “Hall of Fame Monitor” and the “Hall of Fame Standards”, and he’ll have been the starting catcher on 3 or 4 titles teams.)

      The odds of that can’t be more than 20% at this point, but it’s a realistic possibility.

    9. ken
      September 4th, 2009 | 2:08 pm

      The frustrating thing about middle relievers (as opposed to a reliable setup guy like Hughes this year or Okajima in ’07) is that they get hot and cold. Bruney may look bad now but he also has the ability to pitch a good inning or two in the post season. And just because Aceves is better right now, doesn’t mean that he won’t suck next week.

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