Raf wrote:

Regardless of his time in NY, I can’t ignore the other 400+ innings he has thrown in his career.

regardless of that, he was signed to be the LOOGY.

@ Raf:
Fair point, although what happened in the past doesn’t matter that much if he can’t produce the same results in the future. It becomes a conundrum of “WTF happened to the pitcher that used to get outs?”

Regardless of his time in NY, I can’t ignore the other 400+ innings he has thrown in his career.

Raf wrote:

I know. Marte can get lefties and righties out, and can toss multiple innings, which doesn’t make him a LOOGY in a traditional sense.

I assume by “get lefties and righties out” you’re speaking in the hypothetical? Thus far in New York, Marte hasn’t gotten much of anybody out.

Corey wrote:

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No? That’s the role he’s been used in. for the most part, since he’s been here though.

I know. Marte can get lefties and righties out, and can toss multiple innings, which doesn’t make him a LOOGY in a traditional sense.

Raf wrote:

It wasn’t so much a crisis as the team not giving them a fair shake. At times it seemed that the organization was doing everything it could to bury Britton, for reasons I couldn’t quite understand. Put him out there and run him into the ground. Make him a long man, short man, whatever. At the time I thought between him and Albaladejo, they could replicate the performance of a LaTroy Hawkins.

Agree completely.

MJ wrote:

3Y/$12M for a LOOGY? Isn’t it worse to overspend for a role player than to overspend for a guy that you thought would play a central role in the closing out of wins?

I’m just saying it doesn’t sting as bad cause we don’t have to see him in crucial spots night after night.

Raf wrote:

@ Corey:
Marte isn’t a LOOGY.

No? That’s the role he’s been used in. for the most part, since he’s been here though.

@ Corey:
Marte isn’t a LOOGY.

It wasn’t so much a crisis as the team not giving them a fair shake. At times it seemed that the organization was doing everything it could to bury Britton, for reasons I couldn’t quite understand. Put him out there and run him into the ground. Make him a long man, short man, whatever. At the time I thought between him and Albaladejo, they could replicate the performance of a LaTroy Hawkins.

As for Thompson, I see him in the same vein as Shelly Duncan. Not sure why the Yanks didn’t even bother to call him up as a bench player.

In any case, we’re talking about a couple of guys who are fringe ML’er, 24th, 25th man on the roster types.

Corey wrote:

Ya know what though? The mistake with Marte isn’t as bad because he was just signed to be the LOOGY, with some innings during the 7th. Farnsworth was supposed to be our set up guy for 3 years.

3Y/$12M for a LOOGY? Isn’t it worse to overspend for a role player than to overspend for a guy that you thought would play a central role in the closing out of wins?

Cashman swinging and missing with Farnsworth was bad but, according to you, he not only made the same mistake twice, he made it with a guy that is only suppsed to get 1-2 outs max. UGH…that makes it even worse!