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	<title>Comments on: In October, The Pen Is Mightier Than All?</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/05/in-october-the-pen-is-mightier-than-all/comment-page-1/#comment-235761</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;clintfsu813&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought this article was about Closers, not overall Bullpen? .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

the feature says...

...the team with the better cumulative bullpen ERA has gone 33-23. ...
and
...What’s perhaps even more surprising is that the bullpen numbers have been a slightly better predictor than a team’s starting rotation....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_235761','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_235761"><p><b>clintfsu813</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I thought this article was about Closers, not overall Bullpen? .</p></blockquote>
<p>the feature says&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the team with the better cumulative bullpen ERA has gone 33-23. &#8230;<br />
and<br />
&#8230;What’s perhaps even more surprising is that the bullpen numbers have been a slightly better predictor than a team’s starting rotation&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/05/in-october-the-pen-is-mightier-than-all/comment-page-1/#comment-235760</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Corey&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Do these numbers indicate the current bullpen schemes statistics? Or overall (I.E. including Edwar Ramirez, Jose Veras, Anthony Clagget and the like)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Overall - then again, it&#039;s the same for all teams.  Perhaps another way to look at this would be RP since the ASG for all teams?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Steve Lombardi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_235760','Steve Lombardi');" /></div><span id="co_235760"><p><b>Corey</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Do these numbers indicate the current bullpen schemes statistics? Or overall (I.E. including Edwar Ramirez, Jose Veras, Anthony Clagget and the like)?</p></blockquote>
<p>Overall &#8211; then again, it&#8217;s the same for all teams.  Perhaps another way to look at this would be RP since the ASG for all teams?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan3457</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan3457</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The usable part of the pen is relevant, because only the top 3 or 5 relievers are going to get into close games. The bullpen work of the worthies Corey mentions above is irrelevant to the postseason.

I&#039;m pretty satisfied with Mo, Hughes, Aceves, Coke, and if it comes to it Joba, Robertson, and for one lefty batter, Marte.

Sox have a good, deep pen as well.

Twins? Meh. Nathan is outstanding in the large, but the Yanks have a good track record against him (0-3, 4.20 ERA, only 4 saves in 12 games finished), including the postseason. Rauch is generally sound. Mijares is a solid 1st lefty. Guerrier is largely unimpressive, despite the superfically good ERA; the Yanks have hit him well in past seasons. Ron Mahay is the LOOGY, and he has done well vs. the Yanks in the past.

The Twins group doesn&#039;t scare me much.
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Well, this study has shown that the Yanks have as good a chance to win it all as the Red Sox, right? (This in spite of Theo vs. Cashman)

And finally, following all the way through on the logic of this study and this thread, it would be silly for the Yanks to sweat an ALCS matchup with the Angels, right?

After all, the bullpen sees all....knows all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Evan3457');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_235747','Evan3457');" /></div><span id="co_235747"><p>The usable part of the pen is relevant, because only the top 3 or 5 relievers are going to get into close games. The bullpen work of the worthies Corey mentions above is irrelevant to the postseason.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty satisfied with Mo, Hughes, Aceves, Coke, and if it comes to it Joba, Robertson, and for one lefty batter, Marte.</p>
<p>Sox have a good, deep pen as well.</p>
<p>Twins? Meh. Nathan is outstanding in the large, but the Yanks have a good track record against him (0-3, 4.20 ERA, only 4 saves in 12 games finished), including the postseason. Rauch is generally sound. Mijares is a solid 1st lefty. Guerrier is largely unimpressive, despite the superfically good ERA; the Yanks have hit him well in past seasons. Ron Mahay is the LOOGY, and he has done well vs. the Yanks in the past.</p>
<p>The Twins group doesn&#8217;t scare me much.<br />
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Well, this study has shown that the Yanks have as good a chance to win it all as the Red Sox, right? (This in spite of Theo vs. Cashman)</p>
<p>And finally, following all the way through on the logic of this study and this thread, it would be silly for the Yanks to sweat an ALCS matchup with the Angels, right?</p>
<p>After all, the bullpen sees all&#8230;.knows all.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question about this study:

Do these numbers indicate the current bullpen schemes statistics? Or overall (I.E. including Edwar Ramirez, Jose Veras, Anthony Clagget and the like)?</description>
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<p>Do these numbers indicate the current bullpen schemes statistics? Or overall (I.E. including Edwar Ramirez, Jose Veras, Anthony Clagget and the like)?</p>
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		<title>By: clintfsu813</title>
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		<dc:creator>clintfsu813</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this article was about Closers, not overall Bullpen? I think we got that one nailed. Dont even have to look at the stats.</description>
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