• WasWatching.com Water Cooler Talk 10/9/09 – ALDS Game Two Edition

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    1. MJ
      October 9th, 2009 | 9:07 am

      Angels beat the BoSox last night. Not the first time they’ve won Game 1 of an ALDS with Boston but still nice to see.

      Frankly, I hate both teams so all I can do is hope that it goes 5 games, with each game going 22 innings.

    2. October 9th, 2009 | 9:18 am

      @ MJ: Amen.

      Make that 22 innings in 100 degee heat, if possible.

    3. October 9th, 2009 | 9:19 am

      BTW, now that Torre is up 2-0 in a best of three, is he going to drop 3 straight to add to his “record” collection. ;-)

    4. Corey
      October 9th, 2009 | 9:25 am

      MJ wrote:

      Angels beat the BoSox last night.

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      BTW, now that Torre is up 2-0 in a best of three, is he going to drop 3 straight to add to his “record” collection. ;-)

      This is the year where we get to beat Pavano, and 2 different Weaver’s en route to a world series title. It will be sweet.

    5. MJ
      October 9th, 2009 | 9:33 am

      @ Steve Lombardi:
      Absolutely. I wouldn’t be opposed to a sudden heat wave smacking southern California this evening.

      It would crack me up if the Dodgers lost this series.

      @ Corey:
      It’ll be the ultimate revenge post-season if we get to take out Pavano, the Weavers and Torre all by the end of the month.

    6. cr1
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:09 am

      I fear the Angels are a more problematic opponent for the Yankees, so I tuned in thinking it would be better if the Red Sox won, but I can’t help the visceral pleasure I feel at seeing them beaten.

    7. cr1
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:14 am

      The Dodgers were my ‘starter’ team — my family lived in LA when I was young, and the first game I ever went to was a Dodgers game with Koufax pitching. The move to NYC came before it was possible to follow any team you wanted to watch on TV, and my friends were Yankees fans, so I easily made the switch and never looked back. But I still have fond memories of the Dodgers and wish them well whenever they are not in a position to impact the Yankees, which is most of the time. I was happy to see Torre land there and enjoy any successes he and the Dodgers have — up to that point.

    8. Corey
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:17 am

      I’ll be happy to see Torre if he repeats what he did against the Cardinals in game 1 of the NLDS, in the world series against the Yankees (putting in Weaver with the bases loaded). That would make my year.

    9. MJ
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:25 am

      cr1 wrote:

      I fear the Angels are a more problematic opponent for the Yankees, so I tuned in thinking it would be better if the Red Sox won, but I can’t help the visceral pleasure I feel at seeing them beaten.

      Based on nothing at all apart from my gut feeling, I actually think the opposite. I feel like the Yanks match up very well with the Angels insofar as neither their rotation nor their bullpen is particularly strong. Yes, they like to run, but it’s not like we have Varitek or V-Mart behind the plate back there. I think beating them two out of three in mid-September was a big boost to the club. I’m not scared of the Angels.

    10. MJ
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:27 am

      @ Corey:
      Since Pavano is a free agent after this year, how great would it be if he joins his soulmate Jeff Weaver out in LA just to piss Torre off?

    11. cr1
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:31 am

      MJ wrote:
      I’m not scared of the Angels.

      I would like to think you’re right in this case, MJ — I’d be glad to be wrong to be concerned that we might not be at our best against this team.

    12. Raf
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:41 am

      Good to see I’m not the only one rooting for a NYY – LAD matchup :D

    13. clintfsu813
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:47 am

      @ Raf:
      I am too actually. My dad is a Dodger fan. First MLB game I ever attended was Braves/Dodgers in 1992. I even caught a few games in ATL this year. I had good seates behind the visitor dugout and It was a treat to be just a few feet from Donnie and Joe.

    14. butchie22
      October 9th, 2009 | 11:01 am

      cr1 wrote:

      The Dodgers were my ’starter’ team — my family lived in LA when I was young, and the first game I ever went to was a Dodgers game with Koufax pitching. The move to NYC came before it was possible to follow any team you wanted to watch on TV, and my friends were Yankees fans, so I easily made the switch and never looked back. But I still have fond memories of the Dodgers and wish them well whenever they are not in a position to impact the Yankees, which is most of the time. I was happy to see Torre land there and enjoy any successes he and the Dodgers have — up to that point.

      CR, you are truly a gentleman. I’m not a Torre fan or a Dodgers fan, but used to go to Dodgers games as a kid with my uncle who lived in the LA area and Chavez Ravine was/is some place. I remember how devastated I was when the Dodgers beat the Yanks 4 straight in 81, that was really painful. The Yanks schooling Pavano and Weaver? It would just be the Yankees’ luck to be schooled by them!

      As to your point about the Anaheim Orange County Angels of Pasadena CA, I grok what you are saying. since Jorge Passedballsada is not a great defensive catcher, so for at least 5 of 7 of those games Passedballsada will be catching and Scioscia will be letting the wolves run wild on the basepaths. The Yanks can beat the Angels, but until that happens the Angels have the edge. Same thing goes with the Angels/Red Pox, I believe that Anaheim can finally beat them BUT I’ll beleive it when I see it. I also think that the Yanks have a decent shot to beat the Red Sox even with Chad Gaudin pitching Game No 4. Even still the Red Sox have been far more successful in the playoffs than the Yanks have been since 2004 by far. Even with Passedballsada as their defacto captain and catcher , the Yanks should handily beat any team this time around including the NL opponent in the World Series. Let’s see if AJ Burnout can keep it together in game 2 first!

      People are throwing around hate about these other clubs. I respect guys like Francona and Scioscia and their teams a lot. They are winning managers with winning squads. I get the hatred because of the Angels and Red Sox rivalries with the Yanks BUT I actually give props to organizations who do things right. The teams I absoultely hate are teams like the Cubs. The unlovable sad sack losers who don’t accomplish jack shit! Over a hundred years without a World Series title? Spare me. The Cubs fans feel superior to the Palehose fans? That’s a big time joke. Don’t worry I didn’t forget Los Metropolitanos,either!

      And on Torre, it’s funny how the fools in the Yankee front office want Torre to lose. I never liked Torre, I believe that he was the right man ,at the right time at the right place when he became Yankee manager. However, the way Kay preened on last year about the Yankee brass not wanting him to win was pure hogwash. I wish no malice on him and wish him luck. If the Yanks face him, of course I want the Dodgers to be spanked . I wanted Torre gone ,got my wish and best of luck to him.

    15. MJ
      October 9th, 2009 | 11:13 am

      @ Raf:
      Don’t ask me why but I just have a better feeling about the Angels than the Red Sox this year. It might have something to do with how the BoSox spanked us eight in a row to start the year and we returned the favor 9-1 over the next 10. Somehow that streakiness makes me feel like they’ll get all the luck in the next go-around.

      I’d rather play the Angels, whom we played tought this year (save for the bad stretch before the ASB). The Angels aren’t as good as they’ve been in recent years in the pitching department and that’s what counts in my book. If you get into their bullpen, you’re beating them.

    16. cr1
      October 9th, 2009 | 11:40 am

      Butchie22 is right, Chavez Ravine was a terrific place to get inducted into baseball fandom.

      As for Torre, he’s part of many happy memories from the Old Stadium and I feel about him just as I do about old players who did fine things in their time with us, no matter where they went afterwards. I wanted Girardi to replace him (though I was rooting for it to be done in another way) and was glad to look forward to a new dynasty in the New Stadium. But I don’t wish ill on Torre or any of our exes, except when they show up as opponents.

    17. MJ
      October 9th, 2009 | 11:53 am

      @ cr1:
      I don’t wish bad upon Torre personally and I do think that part of his departure from the Yanks was handled extremely poorly by the team. Having said that, he didn’t behave as gracefully as he could’ve either. Although writing that book of his and Verducci’s was perfectly within his rights, it still lacked a degree of class that I’d come to expect from him.

      Anyway, it’s in the past and bygones can be bygones. He’s not in New York anymore and we don’t miss him any more than he misses us. And on some level, he probably knows that and it probably hurts.

    18. October 9th, 2009 | 1:44 pm

      @ MJ:

      Last week in the Jayleno interview… upon being “pressed”

      Torre offered this ” If them reaching the WS is the only way i get back to Yankee stadium then i am all for it [ Yanks-Dodgers WS ]“

    19. Corey
      October 9th, 2009 | 5:01 pm

      I really hope the Lohud blog drops Borden and Thomson once Jennings is assimilated…it’s beginning to get hard to follow with all the different guys posting.

    20. October 9th, 2009 | 5:13 pm

      @ Corey:Really? They’re not the first Yankees blog to have three guys writing for it, are they? Do you find those others hard to follow too?

    21. cr1
      October 9th, 2009 | 5:55 pm

      @ Corey:

      I think it could work well with multiple posters since Lohud followers are a high-maintenance group that has learned to expect constant input. It would probably work better if the guys developed their own areas to post about — helps each one to have an identity and a zone of operations (certainly seems to work at RAB).

    22. Evan3457
      October 9th, 2009 | 10:46 pm

      A-Rod and Tex. Not too shabby, hunh?

    23. Corey
      October 10th, 2009 | 12:05 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Really? They’re not the first Yankees blog to have three guys writing for it, are they? Do you find those others hard to follow too?

      Well, maybe it’s just that they don’t do it well. I have no problem with the guys at RAB, and I actually enjoy the fact that they have 3 different opinions going.

    24. Corey
      October 10th, 2009 | 12:06 pm

      cr1 wrote:

      It would probably work better if the guys developed their own areas to post about — helps each one to have an identity and a zone of operations (certainly seems to work at RAB).

      Ya, that is actually what I like about RAB.

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