• Yanks Going For Three-Way?

    Posted by on October 13th, 2009 · Comments (12)

    According to ESPN.com, the Yanks are leaning towards going with a three-man rotation of Sabathia, Burnett and Pettitte, thus keeping Gaudin and Chamberlain in the bullpen.  I can’t blame Girardi for:

    (1) putting his faith in Sabathia on short rest, given that Sabathia has pitched on short rest in the past.  He’s the ace and he’s going to be counted on like one; and
    (2) having no confidence in either Gaudin or Chamberlain to provide a quality start in a high-pressure situation.

    For all the talk going into the final six weeks of the season about how the Yanks’ biggest post-season vulnerability was the unsettled state of their 4th and 5th starters, I like this move and I’m definitely backing Girardi on this one.  If you want to win, go for the jugular and put the ball in the hands of your big dogs.  That being said, it’ll be open season on General Joe and CC if this move backfires.

    -Posted by MJ

    Comments on Yanks Going For Three-Way?

    1. straylightrise
      October 13th, 2009 | 3:32 pm

      What are the numbers on shortened days rest for these guys? Does this feel like the CWS rotation for anyone else? Remember those guys? Jeeeeez

    2. straylightrise
      October 13th, 2009 | 3:52 pm

      Sorry for DP:

      “I think the focus when you play the Angels is not to get wrapped up in their running game,” Girardi said. “They’re going to run. The bottom line is you’ve got to keep making pitches. When you get your focus so much on the running game, you don’t make the pitches that you need to make.”

      Yankees need to focus on getting outs at the plate – we have 3 strikeout pitchers (ok Andy is more groundballs I think) that need to worry about getting outs at the plate – 2nd base won’t matter if people are striking out.

    3. Corey
      October 13th, 2009 | 3:56 pm

      straylightrise wrote:

      What are the numbers on shortened days rest for these guys? Does this feel like the CWS rotation for anyone else? Remember those guys? Jeeeeez

      The only one that would go on short rest would be Sabathia, in game 4. He would be back on normal rest for game 7. We all are aware how well CC pitched down the stretch for the Brew-Crew last year, where he was consistantly pitching on short rest.

      And if you want CC’s numbers on 3 days rest to refresh you:
      3-1 with a 1.01 ERA in in 26 2/3 innings. He allowed 16 hits, while surrendering 6 walks with 26 punch outs.

    4. MJ
      October 13th, 2009 | 4:37 pm

      Corey wrote:

      The only one that would go on short rest would be Sabathia, in game 4. He would be back on normal rest for game 7.
      And if you want CC’s numbers on 3 days rest to refresh you:
      3-1 with a 1.01 ERA in in 26 2/3 innings. He allowed 16 hits, while surrendering 6 walks with 26 punch outs.

      Yep, that’s why I like this move. It doesn’t disturb the balance of the rest of the staff and only asks a little more of Sabathia who, if he pitches the way he’s capable of, gives you a good chance to win all three of his starts (or two, if only two are necessary).

      I wonder if the Angels will respond in kind with Lackey on short rest for Game 4 or if they’ll give Ervin Santana/Joe Saunders that game?

    5. Jason@IIATMS
      October 13th, 2009 | 4:48 pm

      Steve:

      The concern shouldn’t be CC on 3 days rest, it’s the concern about 6+ days off between starts. I posted the data here:

      http://www.itsaboutthemoney.net/2009-articles/october/a-three-man-rotation-makes-sense.html

    6. MJ
      October 13th, 2009 | 5:01 pm

      @ Jason@IIATMS:
      I mentioned the same thing the other day. I wonder what 9 full days off for CC will do. Obviously he’s probably thrown at least 2 bullpen sessions since he faced the Twins last Wednesday but that’s not the same.

    7. #15
      October 13th, 2009 | 5:05 pm

      Not a bad plan.

      Might consider this…. If the Yankees get a blow out lead in game 1, then have a seat after 6 Big Guy and we’ll see ya in game 4. Or, if, by chance, we are up 3-0 in either series, spin Gaudin out there for game 4 and give the other guys the extra rest. He’ll either have the other teams #1 against him, on short rest, or their #4. And, if we lose game 4, the opponent will still have to beat CC, AJ and Andy in a row. Tough road for them.

      CC hasn’t been taxed this year. Chewed up a lot of innings for sure, but never really leaned on him because the bullpen was in a shambles, etc…… He’s got an extra start in him if they need it, but I’d love to save it for the WS.

      Keep an eye on Joba the rest of the way. Got that fire-breathing look about him right now. Probably a bit overamped, but if he settles down just a little, he’ll be a big factor out of the pen.

      Hate to say it, but we need a second lefty on the roster out of the pen, if only for games at YS. Going to be that way for a long time given the realities of the ballpark. Marte is not good, but we need to be able to match up in late situations against lefties with any pop. That double Howard hit last night is in the seats at Yankee Stadium.

    8. Corey
      October 13th, 2009 | 5:58 pm

      #15 wrote:

      spin Gaudin out there for game 4 and give the other guys the extra rest.

      I’ve read this before, and it makes no sense to me. The playoffs are about full throttle, wouldn’t it make more sense to finish it in 4 and let your regulars get the extra rest? Why risk it going to game 5 when you have their mouth on the curb?

    9. #15
      October 13th, 2009 | 6:22 pm

      Unless your #1 is only 80% on three days rest (i.e, plenty of desire, but just not strong) and 100% on 4 days rest. Like I said, CC can almost certainly pull off 3 starts in at least one of the series. I’d prefer it to be in the WS.

    10. MJ
      October 13th, 2009 | 7:24 pm

      Note that if there’s a rainout in Games 1 or 2 in the Bronx, the 3-man plan gets scratched because the teams lose the off day…

    11. JeremyM
      October 13th, 2009 | 8:31 pm

      #15, I’d rather get to the World Series before worrying about what rotation to use there. If CC throwing 3 times in the ALCS gives us the best shot to get to the Series- and I think it does- then let’s do it. The chance of being up 3-0 is pretty remote (but man, it would be awesome), but presuming the Yanks are, then I still think CC is the choice.

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