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		<title>By: 77yankees</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/21/waswatching-com-water-cooler-talk-102109/comment-page-1/#comment-238807</link>
		<dc:creator>77yankees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ MJ&lt;/b&gt;:


Pu it this way, at least Papelbon has a job waiting for him at BSPN when he retires.</description>
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<p>Pu it this way, at least Papelbon has a job waiting for him at BSPN when he retires.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/21/waswatching-com-water-cooler-talk-102109/comment-page-1/#comment-238663</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;77yankees&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But hey, it’s nothing like Papelbon &amp; Manny Ramirez at the All-Star Game a couple years back. I guess he was showing Manny the grip on his change-up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
HAHAHAHA, that&#039;s a hysterical picture.  Disturbed guy, that Papelbon.</description>
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<blockquote><p>But hey, it’s nothing like Papelbon &amp; Manny Ramirez at the All-Star Game a couple years back. I guess he was showing Manny the grip on his change-up.</p></blockquote>
<p>HAHAHAHA, that&#8217;s a hysterical picture.  Disturbed guy, that Papelbon.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/21/waswatching-com-water-cooler-talk-102109/comment-page-1/#comment-238661</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;77yankees&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But hey, it’s nothing like Papelbon &amp; Manny Ramirez at the All-Star Game a couple years back. I guess he was showing Manny the grip on his change-up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
lol, I had never seen this photo before.</description>
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<blockquote><p>But hey, it’s nothing like Papelbon &amp; Manny Ramirez at the All-Star Game a couple years back. I guess he was showing Manny the grip on his change-up.</p></blockquote>
<p>lol, I had never seen this photo before.</p>
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		<title>By: 77yankees</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/21/waswatching-com-water-cooler-talk-102109/comment-page-1/#comment-238615</link>
		<dc:creator>77yankees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Corey&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;For those in the game thread that saw me mention A-Rod grabbing Jeter’s ass in an odd way, here’s the clip:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rod-gets-a-piece-of-derek-jeter
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I saw that live, and knew someone would jump on it somehow.

But hey, it&#039;s nothing like Papelbon &amp; Manny Ramirez at the All-Star Game a couple years back.  I guess he was showing Manny the grip on his change-up.

http://thebiglead.com/?p=3435</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('77yankees');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_238615','77yankees');" /></div><span id="co_238615"><p><b>Corey</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>For those in the game thread that saw me mention A-Rod grabbing Jeter’s ass in an odd way, here’s the clip:<br />
<a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rod-gets-a-piece-of-derek-jeter" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rod-gets-a-piece-of-derek-jeter</a>
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<p>I saw that live, and knew someone would jump on it somehow.</p>
<p>But hey, it&#8217;s nothing like Papelbon &amp; Manny Ramirez at the All-Star Game a couple years back.  I guess he was showing Manny the grip on his change-up.</p>
<p><a href="http://thebiglead.com/?p=3435" rel="nofollow">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3435</a></p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/21/waswatching-com-water-cooler-talk-102109/comment-page-1/#comment-238614</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Corey&lt;/b&gt;:
I was wondering what you were talking about.  Now I saw... How weird...</description>
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I was wondering what you were talking about.  Now I saw&#8230; How weird&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/10/21/waswatching-com-water-cooler-talk-102109/comment-page-1/#comment-238612</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those in the game thread that saw me mention A-Rod grabbing Jeter&#039;s ass in an odd way, here&#039;s the clip:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rod-gets-a-piece-of-derek-jeter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Corey');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_238612','Corey');" /></div><span id="co_238612"><p>For those in the game thread that saw me mention A-Rod grabbing Jeter&#8217;s ass in an odd way, here&#8217;s the clip:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rod-gets-a-piece-of-derek-jeter" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rod-gets-a-piece-of-derek-jeter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do they have a day off? They aren&#039;t traveling?</description>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few minutes before 5pm so it&#039;s just about quittin&#039; time for most of us.  I&#039;ll end the day by saying this:

GO DODGERS!

I really want the Phils to have to make one more cross-country flight.  I don&#039;t care what happens thereafter, but there&#039;s no way I want the Phils to have a head start on their WS preparations without sweating it out a bit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('MJ');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_238609','MJ');" /></div><span id="co_238609"><p>Just a few minutes before 5pm so it&#8217;s just about quittin&#8217; time for most of us.  I&#8217;ll end the day by saying this:</p>
<p>GO DODGERS!</p>
<p>I really want the Phils to have to make one more cross-country flight.  I don&#8217;t care what happens thereafter, but there&#8217;s no way I want the Phils to have a head start on their WS preparations without sweating it out a bit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Raf&lt;/b&gt;:
Oh, I&#039;m not saying there&#039;s no time to do it.  I just don&#039;t think any of yesterday&#039;s calls were of the &quot;reviewable&quot; type insofar as umpires wouldn&#039;t huddle up for a pickoff call or for a tagging up call.

And if we get into the territory of a TV ump overruling a call on the field simply because he saw it and thinks it was wrong, then we get into dangerous territory about how much power this one ump has over the game.

If we can all agree on WHAT is reviewable, then we can have a TV umpire.  But if we just have someone overruling action on the field, I don&#039;t like that idea at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('MJ');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_238608','MJ');" /></div><span id="co_238608"><p><b>@ Raf</b>:<br />
Oh, I&#8217;m not saying there&#8217;s no time to do it.  I just don&#8217;t think any of yesterday&#8217;s calls were of the &#8220;reviewable&#8221; type insofar as umpires wouldn&#8217;t huddle up for a pickoff call or for a tagging up call.</p>
<p>And if we get into the territory of a TV ump overruling a call on the field simply because he saw it and thinks it was wrong, then we get into dangerous territory about how much power this one ump has over the game.</p>
<p>If we can all agree on WHAT is reviewable, then we can have a TV umpire.  But if we just have someone overruling action on the field, I don&#8217;t like that idea at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;MJ&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;@ Raf:
Typically, umps conference on HR calls and fair/foul calls.  We already have replay for those situations.  Hence, would last night’s situation with Posada and Cano both at 3rd base have been mitigated by replay?  Further, replay wouldn’t have corrected Swisher being called out at 2nd on the pickoff nor would it have corrected him scoring on the sac fly from 3rd.  So what are we really talking about here anyway?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Off the top of my head, I would think calls like that would be under review.  Or the extra umpire would be watching the game, and an obvious blown call would be reviewed.  Using the example in the article, with Swisher tagging up, there is ample time to get the call right.  Same thing with the 2 runners on 3rd, while Scioscia&#039;s arguing (or whenever a manager comes out to argue) the extra umpire is reviewing the call while the manager is pleading his case.

It can be done, we just have to figure out the how</description>
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<blockquote><p>@ Raf:<br />
Typically, umps conference on HR calls and fair/foul calls.  We already have replay for those situations.  Hence, would last night’s situation with Posada and Cano both at 3rd base have been mitigated by replay?  Further, replay wouldn’t have corrected Swisher being called out at 2nd on the pickoff nor would it have corrected him scoring on the sac fly from 3rd.  So what are we really talking about here anyway?
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<p>Off the top of my head, I would think calls like that would be under review.  Or the extra umpire would be watching the game, and an obvious blown call would be reviewed.  Using the example in the article, with Swisher tagging up, there is ample time to get the call right.  Same thing with the 2 runners on 3rd, while Scioscia&#8217;s arguing (or whenever a manager comes out to argue) the extra umpire is reviewing the call while the manager is pleading his case.</p>
<p>It can be done, we just have to figure out the how</p>
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