Comments on: The First Fall Classic: The Red Sox, The Giants And The Cast of Players, Pugs And Politicos Who Re-Invented The World Series In 1912 http://waswatching.com/2009/10/30/the-first-fall-classic-the-red-sox-the-giants-and-the-cast-of-players-pugs-and-politicos-who-re-invented-the-world-series-in-1912/ Holy Cow! We never take cannoli from a huckleberry. Sat, 26 May 2012 14:59:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: First Lady Ranks Over The Mayor Of Yankeeland? http://waswatching.com/2009/10/30/the-first-fall-classic-the-red-sox-the-giants-and-the-cast-of-players-pugs-and-politicos-who-re-invented-the-world-series-in-1912/comment-page-1/#comment-240709 First Lady Ranks Over The Mayor Of Yankeeland? Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:43:30 +0000 http://waswatching.com/?p=19123#comment-240709 [...] sold the traditional seats on Duffy’s Cliff held for the Royal Rooters before Game 7 of the 1912 World Series to the general public, the Yankees are stupid to mess with anything that could bring back luck to [...] [...] sold the traditional seats on Duffy’s Cliff held for the Royal Rooters before Game 7 of the 1912 World Series to the general public, the Yankees are stupid to mess with anything that could bring back luck to [...]

]]> By: Steve Lombardi http://waswatching.com/2009/10/30/the-first-fall-classic-the-red-sox-the-giants-and-the-cast-of-players-pugs-and-politicos-who-re-invented-the-world-series-in-1912/comment-page-1/#comment-240661 Steve Lombardi Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:28:30 +0000 http://waswatching.com/?p=19123#comment-240661 <b>@ Tresh Fan</b>: You will love this book - and what it tells you about how the Red Sox brass impacted the Series outcome. Truly amazing stuff.

@ Tresh Fan:
You will love this book – and what it tells you about how the Red Sox brass impacted the Series outcome. Truly amazing stuff.

]]> By: Steve Lombardi http://waswatching.com/2009/10/30/the-first-fall-classic-the-red-sox-the-giants-and-the-cast-of-players-pugs-and-politicos-who-re-invented-the-world-series-in-1912/comment-page-1/#comment-240660 Steve Lombardi Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:27:22 +0000 http://waswatching.com/?p=19123#comment-240660 <b>@ Rob Abruzzese</b>: If you love baseball history, you'll love this book. It takes many of the names that you've seen from the past and brings them to live.

@ Rob Abruzzese: If you love baseball history, you’ll love this book. It takes many of the names that you’ve seen from the past and brings them to live.

]]> By: Tresh Fan http://waswatching.com/2009/10/30/the-first-fall-classic-the-red-sox-the-giants-and-the-cast-of-players-pugs-and-politicos-who-re-invented-the-world-series-in-1912/comment-page-1/#comment-240486 Tresh Fan Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:22:55 +0000 http://waswatching.com/?p=19123#comment-240486 I consider the 1912 World Series the greatest Series ever played----and for several reasons. The first of which are the teams. You had the 1912 Giants, one of the greatest of all time. Consider this: 1912 Giants------------------------------------1975 Reds ----.755---------------------OPS--------------------.754---- -----823--------------------RUNS--------------------840---- Both teams were lead by their MVP 2Bmen: "Laughing Larry" Doyle (.330-10-90) for the Giants and Joe Morgan (.327-17-94) for the Reds. And both teams featured hard hitting catchers: Chief Myers (147 OPS+) for the Giants and Johnny Bench (140 OPS+) for the Reds. There are also some other similarities, but you get the picture. When you think of the 1912 Giants think of the 1975 Reds...with Christy Mathewson! Yeah, they were that good. And do you know what? The team that beat them in the Series, the 1912 Red Sox, may have even been the better team. The Red Sox (.735 OPS, 799 Runs) didn't have quite the fire power of the Giants, but they were pretty close. Their line-up did feature the AL MVP in Tris Speaker (188 OPS+, 52 SB, and the best defensive CF in the game) and, of course, the player that really set the Red Sox apart from every other team in the Majors: "Smokey Joe" Wood. Wood made 38 starts that year, completing 35 of them, and worked 5 games in relief, finishing all of them, for a record of 34-5 with 1 save on a 1.91 ERA. He also went 36 for 124 (.290) at the plate and was a better than average fielder as a pitcher. And, oh yes, he was just 22 years old (Speaker was all of 24). All told the Giants were 103-48 (.682) and finished 10 games up, the Red Sox were 105-47 (.691) and finished 14 games up. Both teams had Run Differentials of over 250 as well. They were at the time the two most dominant teams ever to meet in a World Series. And the 1912 Series is still the only best of seven series to go eight games (one game ended in a tie). Good stuff, and well worth a shelf load of books.

I consider the 1912 World Series the greatest Series ever played—-and for several reasons. The first of which are the teams. You had the 1912 Giants, one of the greatest of all time. Consider this:

1912 Giants————————————1975 Reds
—-.755———————OPS——————–.754—-
—–823——————–RUNS——————–840—-

Both teams were lead by their MVP 2Bmen: “Laughing Larry” Doyle (.330-10-90) for the Giants and Joe Morgan (.327-17-94) for the Reds. And both teams featured hard hitting catchers: Chief Myers (147 OPS+) for the Giants and Johnny Bench (140 OPS+) for the Reds. There are also some other similarities, but you get the picture. When you think of the 1912 Giants think of the 1975 Reds…with Christy Mathewson! Yeah, they were that good.

And do you know what? The team that beat them in the Series, the 1912 Red Sox, may have even been the better team. The Red Sox (.735 OPS, 799 Runs) didn’t have quite the fire power of the Giants, but they were pretty close. Their line-up did feature the AL MVP in Tris Speaker (188 OPS+, 52 SB, and the best defensive CF in the game) and, of course, the player that really set the Red Sox apart from every other team in the Majors: “Smokey Joe” Wood. Wood made 38 starts that year, completing 35 of them, and worked 5 games in relief, finishing all of them, for a record of 34-5 with 1 save on a 1.91 ERA. He also went 36 for 124 (.290) at the plate and was a better than average fielder as a pitcher. And, oh yes, he was just 22 years old (Speaker was all of 24).

All told the Giants were 103-48 (.682) and finished 10 games up, the Red Sox were 105-47 (.691) and finished 14 games up. Both teams had Run Differentials of over 250 as well. They were at the time the two most dominant teams ever to meet in a World Series. And the 1912 Series is still the only best of seven series to go eight games (one game ended in a tie). Good stuff, and well worth a shelf load of books.

]]> By: Rob Abruzzese http://waswatching.com/2009/10/30/the-first-fall-classic-the-red-sox-the-giants-and-the-cast-of-players-pugs-and-politicos-who-re-invented-the-world-series-in-1912/comment-page-1/#comment-240430 Rob Abruzzese Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:13:19 +0000 http://waswatching.com/?p=19123#comment-240430 Sounds like a good book. I'm a big baseball history buff so I'm going to have to pick this up.

Sounds like a good book. I’m a big baseball history buff so I’m going to have to pick this up.

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