• How Much Did Sabathia, Burnett & Pettitte Shoulder In 2009?

    Posted by on December 23rd, 2009 · Comments (14)

    How many times, in the entire history of the New York Yankees franchise, have the Yankees had three pitchers in a year post a season where they had GS=32+, IP=190+ and W=13+?

    Here’s the answer…a list of all Yankees seasons where they’ve had more than one pitcher with GS=32+, IP=190+ and W=13+ in a season:

    Rk   Year                                                 #Matching
    1    2009         3    A.J. Burnett / Andy Pettitte / C.C. Sabathia
    2    2006         3  Randy Johnson / Mike Mussina / Chien-Ming Wang
    3    1976         3       Dock Ellis / Ed Figueroa / Catfish Hunter
    4    1972         3  Steve Kline / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
    5    1971         3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
    6    1970         3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
    7    1964         3           Jim Bouton / Al Downing / Whitey Ford
    8    1962         3       Whitey Ford / Bill Stafford / Ralph Terry
    9    2008         2                    Mike Mussina / Andy Pettitte
    10   2003         2                   Roger Clemens / Andy Pettitte
    11   2001         2                    Roger Clemens / Mike Mussina
    12   2000         2                   Roger Clemens / Andy Pettitte
    13   1997         2                     Andy Pettitte / David Wells
    14   1985         2                        Ron Guidry / Phil Niekro
    15   1978         2                        Ed Figueroa / Ron Guidry
    16   1975         2                     Catfish Hunter / Doc Medich
    17   1974         2                         Pat Dobson / Doc Medich
    18   1973         2                    Doc Medich / Mel Stottlemyre
    19   1969         2                Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
    20   1968         2                  Stan Bahnsen / Mel Stottlemyre
    21   1965         2                   Whitey Ford / Mel Stottlemyre
    22   1963         2                       Whitey Ford / Ralph Terry
    23   1955         2                        Whitey Ford / Bob Turley
    24   1950         2                           Ed Lopat / Vic Raschi
    25   1926         2                    Herb Pennock / Urban Shocker
    26   1924         2                       Waite Hoyt / Herb Pennock
    27   1921         2                          Waite Hoyt / Carl Mays
    28   1920         2                          Carl Mays / Jack Quinn
    29   1906         2                          Jack Chesbro / Al Orth
    30   1905         2                          Jack Chesbro / Al Orth
    31   1904         2                      Jack Chesbro / Jack Powell
    32   1901         2                    Harry Howell / Joe McGinnity

     

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    Generated 12/23/2009.

    So, last season, when CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Andy Pettitte turned this trick for New York, it was the first time this has happened in Yankeeland since 2006 – and only the 3rd time it’s happened since George Steinbrenner bought the team in 1973.

    I wonder if CC, A.J., and Andy can all post these numbers again in 2010?

    Comments on How Much Did Sabathia, Burnett & Pettitte Shoulder In 2009?

    1. MJ
      December 23rd, 2009 | 2:13 pm

      I wonder if CC, A.J., and Andy can all post these numbers again in 2010?
      ———-
      It would be great if they could and, honestly, I don’t see why they can’t. But even if not, it’s a good bet that at least two of Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte and Vazquez can do so and possibly all four can too.

    2. Rich M
      December 23rd, 2009 | 2:44 pm

      I was shocked to not see the 98 team on the list. They had three starters over 200 innings but Wells did it in 30 starts and Cone had 31.
      Another note on the 09 team. When was the last time the Yanks had 4 starters all make over 31 starts?

    3. December 23rd, 2009 | 2:57 pm

      MJ wrote:

      It would be great if they could and, honestly, I don’t see why they can’t.

      Because it’s only happened 3 times in the last 37 years of the franchise’s history? ;-)

    4. December 23rd, 2009 | 3:02 pm

      Rich M wrote:

      When was the last time the Yanks had 4 starters all make over 31 starts?

      Never.

      Rk Year #Matching
      1 2009 4 A.J. Burnett / Joba Chamberlain / Andy Pettitte / C.C. Sabathia
      2 2006 3 Randy Johnson / Mike Mussina / Chien-Ming Wang
      3 2003 3 Roger Clemens / Mike Mussina / Andy Pettitte
      4 2001 3 Roger Clemens / Mike Mussina / Andy Pettitte
      5 1999 3 David Cone / Orlando Hernandez / Andy Pettitte
      6 1983 3 Ron Guidry / Shane Rawley / Dave Righetti
      7 1976 3 Dock Ellis / Ed Figueroa / Catfish Hunter
      8 1975 3 Catfish Hunter / Rudy May / Doc Medich
      9 1973 3 Doc Medich / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
      10 1972 3 Steve Kline / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
      11 1971 3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
      12 1970 3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
      13 1969 3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
      14 1965 3 Al Downing / Whitey Ford / Mel Stottlemyre
      15 1964 3 Jim Bouton / Al Downing / Whitey Ford
      16 1962 3 Whitey Ford / Bill Stafford / Ralph Terry
      17 1950 3 Tommy Byrne / Ed Lopat / Vic Raschi
      18 1948 3 Ed Lopat / Vic Raschi / Allie Reynolds
      19 1924 3 Joe Bush / Waite Hoyt / Herb Pennock
      20 1921 3 Waite Hoyt / Carl Mays / Bob Shawkey
      21 1920 3 Carl Mays / Jack Quinn / Bob Shawkey
      22 2008 2 Mike Mussina / Andy Pettitte
      23 2002 2 Mike Mussina / David Wells
      24 2000 2 Roger Clemens / Andy Pettitte
      25 1998 2 David Cone / Andy Pettitte
      Rk Year #Matching
      26 1997 2 Andy Pettitte / David Wells
      27 1993 2 Jim Abbott / Jimmy Key
      28 1992 2 Melido Perez / Scott Sanderson
      29 1985 2 Ron Guidry / Phil Niekro
      30 1978 2 Ed Figueroa / Ron Guidry
      31 1977 2 Ed Figueroa / Mike Torrez
      32 1974 2 Pat Dobson / Doc Medich
      33 1968 2 Stan Bahnsen / Mel Stottlemyre
      34 1966 2 Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
      35 1963 2 Whitey Ford / Ralph Terry
      36 1955 2 Whitey Ford / Bob Turley
      37 1951 2 Ed Lopat / Vic Raschi
      38 1949 2 Vic Raschi / Allie Reynolds
      39 1946 2 Bill Bevens / Spud Chandler
      40 1938 2 Lefty Gomez / Red Ruffing
      41 1937 2 Lefty Gomez / Red Ruffing
      42 1936 2 Monte Pearson / Red Ruffing
      43 1934 2 Lefty Gomez / Red Ruffing
      44 1928 2 Waite Hoyt / George Pipgras
      45 1926 2 Herb Pennock / Urban Shocker
      46 1925 2 Sam Jones / Herb Pennock
      47 1922 2 Waite Hoyt / Bob Shawkey
      48 1910 2 Russ Ford / Jack Quinn
      49 1906 2 Jack Chesbro / Al Orth
    5. Raf
      December 23rd, 2009 | 3:08 pm

      Rich M wrote:

      Another note on the 09 team. When was the last time the Yanks had 4 starters all make over 31 starts?

      2003, I think

    6. MJ
      December 23rd, 2009 | 3:20 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Because it’s only happened 3 times in the last 37 years of the franchise’s history?

      If the ’70-’72 Yanks could do it with those guys, there’s no reason why the same returning staff — bolstered with another workhorse in Vazquez — can’t do it too.

    7. December 23rd, 2009 | 3:29 pm

      @ MJ:
      Actually, it was a different time before, say, 1985 (or thereabouts). MGRs used to just leave the starting pitchers in the games, no matter what. Much easier to get 190+ IP that way.

    8. MJ
      December 23rd, 2009 | 4:33 pm

      @ Steve Lombardi:
      I know that but it happened last year so there’s no reason why it can’t happen again.

    9. December 23rd, 2009 | 4:36 pm

      @ MJ: Well, using that logic, then we can expect alotta walk off wins in 2010 too. ;-)

    10. December 23rd, 2009 | 7:01 pm

      I think its only fair to be concerned (though mildly), i would think AJ and Andy are the key arms that can flare up.. AJ more so than Andy and thats why the loser of the Joba/Phil starter race should be on the ready… i just cant agree that one of those 2 will be wasted in the bullpen, it feels like a crime.. just 2 years back i was thinking of a home grown top 3 of Joba, Phil and Wang.. how the times have changed…

      Steve, sry if u have already commented on this, who do you prefer and who do you expect to win the 5th spot?

    11. December 23rd, 2009 | 10:42 pm

      @ srivinodh:
      I expect Joba to get the 5th slot with Hughes staying in the pen – unless one of them tanks really bad in the Spring.

    12. Evan3457
      December 24th, 2009 | 2:13 am

      Steve is right. It’s unlikely all three will make it through 2010 with as many starts and innings and wins.

      Burnett is the obvious candidate to come up short, but Pettitte could also hit the wall at age 39. CC has a lot of mileage, but I wouldn’t expect him to have a dropoff until the mid-career power pitcher’s crisis…about 4-5 years from now, I would guess.

      Vazquez looks reliable enough to pick up some of the slack. Let’s hope Joba can pick up some, now that all the Joba Rules are over with.

    13. clintfsu813
      December 24th, 2009 | 7:29 am

      Let’s hope Joba can pick up some, now that all the Joba Rules are over with.

      I refuse to get rid of my Joba Rules shirt! :)

    14. Raf
      December 24th, 2009 | 7:37 am

      Raf wrote:

      Rich M wrote:

      Another note on the 09 team. When was the last time the Yanks had 4 starters all make over 31 starts?
      2003, I think

      Ok, that was incorrect, but they did have 4 starters with 200ip that made at least 30 starts

      Mussina: 214 (31)
      Wells: 213 (30)
      Clemens: 211 (33)
      Pettitte: 208 (33)

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