How Much Did Sabathia, Burnett & Pettitte Shoulder In 2009?
Posted by Steve L. on December 23rd, 2009 · Comments (14)
How many times, in the entire history of the New York Yankees franchise, have the Yankees had three pitchers in a year post a season where they had GS=32+, IP=190+ and W=13+?
Here’s the answer…a list of all Yankees seasons where they’ve had more than one pitcher with GS=32+, IP=190+ and W=13+ in a season:
Rk Year #Matching
1 2009 3 A.J. Burnett / Andy Pettitte / C.C. Sabathia
2 2006 3 Randy Johnson / Mike Mussina / Chien-Ming Wang
3 1976 3 Dock Ellis / Ed Figueroa / Catfish Hunter
4 1972 3 Steve Kline / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
5 1971 3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
6 1970 3 Stan Bahnsen / Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
7 1964 3 Jim Bouton / Al Downing / Whitey Ford
8 1962 3 Whitey Ford / Bill Stafford / Ralph Terry
9 2008 2 Mike Mussina / Andy Pettitte
10 2003 2 Roger Clemens / Andy Pettitte
11 2001 2 Roger Clemens / Mike Mussina
12 2000 2 Roger Clemens / Andy Pettitte
13 1997 2 Andy Pettitte / David Wells
14 1985 2 Ron Guidry / Phil Niekro
15 1978 2 Ed Figueroa / Ron Guidry
16 1975 2 Catfish Hunter / Doc Medich
17 1974 2 Pat Dobson / Doc Medich
18 1973 2 Doc Medich / Mel Stottlemyre
19 1969 2 Fritz Peterson / Mel Stottlemyre
20 1968 2 Stan Bahnsen / Mel Stottlemyre
21 1965 2 Whitey Ford / Mel Stottlemyre
22 1963 2 Whitey Ford / Ralph Terry
23 1955 2 Whitey Ford / Bob Turley
24 1950 2 Ed Lopat / Vic Raschi
25 1926 2 Herb Pennock / Urban Shocker
26 1924 2 Waite Hoyt / Herb Pennock
27 1921 2 Waite Hoyt / Carl Mays
28 1920 2 Carl Mays / Jack Quinn
29 1906 2 Jack Chesbro / Al Orth
30 1905 2 Jack Chesbro / Al Orth
31 1904 2 Jack Chesbro / Jack Powell
32 1901 2 Harry Howell / Joe McGinnity
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Generated 12/23/2009.
So, last season, when CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Andy Pettitte turned this trick for New York, it was the first time this has happened in Yankeeland since 2006 – and only the 3rd time it’s happened since George Steinbrenner bought the team in 1973.
I wonder if CC, A.J., and Andy can all post these numbers again in 2010?
I wonder if CC, A.J., and Andy can all post these numbers again in 2010?
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It would be great if they could and, honestly, I don’t see why they can’t. But even if not, it’s a good bet that at least two of Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte and Vazquez can do so and possibly all four can too.
I was shocked to not see the 98 team on the list. They had three starters over 200 innings but Wells did it in 30 starts and Cone had 31.
Another note on the 09 team. When was the last time the Yanks had 4 starters all make over 31 starts?
MJ wrote:
Because it’s only happened 3 times in the last 37 years of the franchise’s history?
Rich M wrote:
Never.
Rich M wrote:
2003, I think
Steve Lombardi wrote:
If the ’70-’72 Yanks could do it with those guys, there’s no reason why the same returning staff — bolstered with another workhorse in Vazquez — can’t do it too.
@ MJ:
Actually, it was a different time before, say, 1985 (or thereabouts). MGRs used to just leave the starting pitchers in the games, no matter what. Much easier to get 190+ IP that way.
@ Steve Lombardi:
I know that but it happened last year so there’s no reason why it can’t happen again.
@ MJ: Well, using that logic, then we can expect alotta walk off wins in 2010 too.
I think its only fair to be concerned (though mildly), i would think AJ and Andy are the key arms that can flare up.. AJ more so than Andy and thats why the loser of the Joba/Phil starter race should be on the ready… i just cant agree that one of those 2 will be wasted in the bullpen, it feels like a crime.. just 2 years back i was thinking of a home grown top 3 of Joba, Phil and Wang.. how the times have changed…
Steve, sry if u have already commented on this, who do you prefer and who do you expect to win the 5th spot?
@ srivinodh:
I expect Joba to get the 5th slot with Hughes staying in the pen – unless one of them tanks really bad in the Spring.
Steve is right. It’s unlikely all three will make it through 2010 with as many starts and innings and wins.
Burnett is the obvious candidate to come up short, but Pettitte could also hit the wall at age 39. CC has a lot of mileage, but I wouldn’t expect him to have a dropoff until the mid-career power pitcher’s crisis…about 4-5 years from now, I would guess.
Vazquez looks reliable enough to pick up some of the slack. Let’s hope Joba can pick up some, now that all the Joba Rules are over with.
Let’s hope Joba can pick up some, now that all the Joba Rules are over with.
I refuse to get rid of my Joba Rules shirt!
Raf wrote:
Ok, that was incorrect, but they did have 4 starters with 200ip that made at least 30 starts
Mussina: 214 (31)
Wells: 213 (30)
Clemens: 211 (33)
Pettitte: 208 (33)