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		<title>By: lisaswan</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2010/03/09/with-a-rod-when-is-enough-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-261369</link>
		<dc:creator>lisaswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Yankees won&#039;t release Kei Igawa - or find anybody to take him of their hands. But they&#039;re going to get all OMG about HGH and dump A-Rod - and the $250+ million left on his contract? Not. Going. To. Happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('lisaswan');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_261369','lisaswan');" /></div><span id="co_261369"><p>And the Yankees won&#8217;t release Kei Igawa &#8211; or find anybody to take him of their hands. But they&#8217;re going to get all OMG about HGH and dump A-Rod &#8211; and the $250+ million left on his contract? Not. Going. To. Happen.</p>
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		<title>By: BOHAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOHAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im so tired of of hearing about PEDs and HGH in general. it happened people took em some people r still stupid enough to take them now. highly doubt that ARod used HGH i dont think he&#039;s that dumb. he&#039;ll be ousted out of the game like Bonds was and im sure he realizes that. he probably went to this guy just to get some kind of second opinion. as for the others stuff ARod has done, varitek fight, swapping at the ball, pitch tipping, yelling &quot;Ah!.&quot; its all part of the game. varitek got in ARod&#039;s face ARod didnt like it so he pushed his face away and things escalated quickly. ive seen fights starts over alot less thing (manny starting a fight with clemens in boston over a pitch that was high and over the plate.) as for the swipping at the ball that happens all the same (just not as blaten) what do u thik someone is tryin to do when the run a catcher or if ur aware enough to try to do it with ur feet or hands when sliding into a tag, happens alot more then u might realize. and the yelling &quot;ah!&quot; that was a heads up play. that third basemen should know what his shortstop sounds u spend more time with ur teammates then ur own family. and the pitch tipping... if a catcher is stupid enough to not switch up the signs then he deserves it. hitters take every edge then take since hitting a round baseball with a round bat squarely is the hardest thing to do in sports. as long as ARod is producing and isnt hurting the team on the field, which i dont think he is, since hes one a WS now and helped his team get to the playoffs every year since hes been year except one which isnt an easy feat by any measures, hell be around for quite while. so everyone get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('BOHAN');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_261223','BOHAN');" /></div><span id="co_261223"><p>im so tired of of hearing about PEDs and HGH in general. it happened people took em some people r still stupid enough to take them now. highly doubt that ARod used HGH i dont think he&#8217;s that dumb. he&#8217;ll be ousted out of the game like Bonds was and im sure he realizes that. he probably went to this guy just to get some kind of second opinion. as for the others stuff ARod has done, varitek fight, swapping at the ball, pitch tipping, yelling &#8220;Ah!.&#8221; its all part of the game. varitek got in ARod&#8217;s face ARod didnt like it so he pushed his face away and things escalated quickly. ive seen fights starts over alot less thing (manny starting a fight with clemens in boston over a pitch that was high and over the plate.) as for the swipping at the ball that happens all the same (just not as blaten) what do u thik someone is tryin to do when the run a catcher or if ur aware enough to try to do it with ur feet or hands when sliding into a tag, happens alot more then u might realize. and the yelling &#8220;ah!&#8221; that was a heads up play. that third basemen should know what his shortstop sounds u spend more time with ur teammates then ur own family. and the pitch tipping&#8230; if a catcher is stupid enough to not switch up the signs then he deserves it. hitters take every edge then take since hitting a round baseball with a round bat squarely is the hardest thing to do in sports. as long as ARod is producing and isnt hurting the team on the field, which i dont think he is, since hes one a WS now and helped his team get to the playoffs every year since hes been year except one which isnt an easy feat by any measures, hell be around for quite while. so everyone get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: lisaswan</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2010/03/09/with-a-rod-when-is-enough-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-261183</link>
		<dc:creator>lisaswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Steve Lombardi&lt;/b&gt;:
Aaaaah, so we can discount Pettitte&#039;s HGH use on championship teams because we like the way he carries himself, but 2009 is forever tainted if A-Rod did use HGH? Got it.</description>
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Aaaaah, so we can discount Pettitte&#8217;s HGH use on championship teams because we like the way he carries himself, but 2009 is forever tainted if A-Rod did use HGH? Got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ lisaswan&lt;/b&gt;:
If you can notice a difference between Andy Pettitte and Alex Rodriguez, as they have carried themselves in the Yankees uniform, then you really haven&#039;t been paying attention with both eyes open, IMHO.</description>
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If you can notice a difference between Andy Pettitte and Alex Rodriguez, as they have carried themselves in the Yankees uniform, then you really haven&#8217;t been paying attention with both eyes open, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: lisaswan</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisaswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon - this Manny/A-Rod comparison is just silly:

1. The Red Sox had to agree to pay all of Manny&#039;s salary for the rest of the 2008 season and give up two players in order to get rid of him. And that was just $7 million. Imagine what it would take to move A-Rod&#039;s albatross of a contract. If you think it&#039;s a great idea for the Yankees to literally pay hundreds of millions on A-Rod&#039;s salary when he&#039;s hitting on another team, knock yourself out. Because that&#039;s the only way they&#039;re going to get to move him.

2. While I understand why the Sox had to move Manny, they aren&#039;t even close to the potent lineup they had with the Manny/Ortiz combo. They may be a quieter team, but they are also a weaker team.

2. The Yanks have little ground to do anything to A-Rod with Dr. Galea. Remember, it was Phillipon who told A-Rod to go see Mark Lindsay, Galea&#039;s partner. What&#039;s the Yankees&#039; defense going to be - we knew you were going to see this one guy, but geez, seeing the business partner is bad?

4. Steve writes, &quot;Yeah, but, what if we find out that “we don’t win that that Championship” without Arod powered by HGH? Doesn’t that take away from it – considering the LARGE role he played in getting the Yankees thru this past post-season compared to the tank jobs he did in previous Yankees post-seasons?&quot; Hmmmm. Do you discount 1999 and 2000 because of Pettitte, Clemens, and Knoblauch? No, in fact you had Pettitte on your untouchable perfect Yankee list, despite him being an admitted HGH user. What&#039;s the difference?

5. &quot;And, with A-Rod, it’s the same…because of poker games, strippers/wife-cheating, Madonna, getting outed for using PEDs in Texas, stuff like that…all this baggage that A-Rod creates brings attention to the organization/franchise that’s not great, but, they put up with…up to a point.&quot; Were you griping in the summer 1978 that Reggie Jackson is just too much of a distraction for the Yankees, and that the team should move him for somebody quieter? Just wondering.

6. Can we please get over acting as if the Yankee organization has no idea that its players have used PEDs? Come on now. If the team really had any objection to it, they wouldn&#039;t have re-signed Andy Pettitte - twice - since the Mitchell Report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('lisaswan');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_261149','lisaswan');" /></div><span id="co_261149"><p>C&#8217;mon &#8211; this Manny/A-Rod comparison is just silly:</p>
<p>1. The Red Sox had to agree to pay all of Manny&#8217;s salary for the rest of the 2008 season and give up two players in order to get rid of him. And that was just $7 million. Imagine what it would take to move A-Rod&#8217;s albatross of a contract. If you think it&#8217;s a great idea for the Yankees to literally pay hundreds of millions on A-Rod&#8217;s salary when he&#8217;s hitting on another team, knock yourself out. Because that&#8217;s the only way they&#8217;re going to get to move him.</p>
<p>2. While I understand why the Sox had to move Manny, they aren&#8217;t even close to the potent lineup they had with the Manny/Ortiz combo. They may be a quieter team, but they are also a weaker team.</p>
<p>2. The Yanks have little ground to do anything to A-Rod with Dr. Galea. Remember, it was Phillipon who told A-Rod to go see Mark Lindsay, Galea&#8217;s partner. What&#8217;s the Yankees&#8217; defense going to be &#8211; we knew you were going to see this one guy, but geez, seeing the business partner is bad?</p>
<p>4. Steve writes, &#8220;Yeah, but, what if we find out that “we don’t win that that Championship” without Arod powered by HGH? Doesn’t that take away from it – considering the LARGE role he played in getting the Yankees thru this past post-season compared to the tank jobs he did in previous Yankees post-seasons?&#8221; Hmmmm. Do you discount 1999 and 2000 because of Pettitte, Clemens, and Knoblauch? No, in fact you had Pettitte on your untouchable perfect Yankee list, despite him being an admitted HGH user. What&#8217;s the difference?</p>
<p>5. &#8220;And, with A-Rod, it’s the same…because of poker games, strippers/wife-cheating, Madonna, getting outed for using PEDs in Texas, stuff like that…all this baggage that A-Rod creates brings attention to the organization/franchise that’s not great, but, they put up with…up to a point.&#8221; Were you griping in the summer 1978 that Reggie Jackson is just too much of a distraction for the Yankees, and that the team should move him for somebody quieter? Just wondering.</p>
<p>6. Can we please get over acting as if the Yankee organization has no idea that its players have used PEDs? Come on now. If the team really had any objection to it, they wouldn&#8217;t have re-signed Andy Pettitte &#8211; twice &#8211; since the Mitchell Report.</p>
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		<title>By: clintfsu813</title>
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		<dc:creator>clintfsu813</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Corey Italiano&lt;/b&gt;:
I dont wanna discount the pitchers roles at all. What they did was pitch great and keep those games close allowing for some big hits to win us some games. Alot of these big hits came from Arod. Sure somebody else could have stepped up. (Damn sure wouldnt have been Swish or Tex or Cano) And 2009 most definitely wouldnt lose any luster to me either..though it would in the general public. Hence, more of me having to defend our team, lol.</description>
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I dont wanna discount the pitchers roles at all. What they did was pitch great and keep those games close allowing for some big hits to win us some games. Alot of these big hits came from Arod. Sure somebody else could have stepped up. (Damn sure wouldnt have been Swish or Tex or Cano) And 2009 most definitely wouldnt lose any luster to me either..though it would in the general public. Hence, more of me having to defend our team, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;clintfsu813&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It would have if they had moved him prior to October 2009. We dont win that Championship without Arod.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can&#039;t really say that.  A team necessarily doesn&#039;t need to be firing on all cylinders to win a World Series.</description>
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<blockquote><p>It would have if they had moved him prior to October 2009. We dont win that Championship without Arod.</p></blockquote>
<p>Can&#8217;t really say that.  A team necessarily doesn&#8217;t need to be firing on all cylinders to win a World Series.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Italiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Italiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Corey Italiano&lt;/b&gt;:
Also, to say that A-Rod is the only reason we won would discount the pitching performances that we got throughout the playoffs (aside from a clunkers by Burnett)</description>
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Also, to say that A-Rod is the only reason we won would discount the pitching performances that we got throughout the playoffs (aside from a clunkers by Burnett)</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Italiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Italiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Steve Lombardi&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, but, what if we find out that “we don’t win that that Championship” without Arod powered by HGH? Doesn’t that take away from it – considering the LARGE role he played in getting the Yankees thru this past post-season compared to the tank jobs he did in previous Yankees post-seasons?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It doesn&#039;t lose any luster with me. I assume most players are on some sort of PED</description>
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<blockquote><p>Yeah, but, what if we find out that “we don’t win that that Championship” without Arod powered by HGH? Doesn’t that take away from it – considering the LARGE role he played in getting the Yankees thru this past post-season compared to the tank jobs he did in previous Yankees post-seasons?</p></blockquote>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t lose any luster with me. I assume most players are on some sort of PED</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lombardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lombardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ nettles&lt;/b&gt;:  LOL.  I totally forgot about the pitch tipping thing already!

&lt;b&gt;clintfsu813&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It would have if they had moved him prior to October 2009. We dont win that Championship without Arod.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, but, what if we find out that &quot;we don&#039;t win that that Championship&quot; without Arod powered by HGH?  Doesn&#039;t that take away from it - considering the LARGE role he played in getting the Yankees thru this past post-season compared to the tank jobs he did in previous Yankees post-seasons?</description>
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<p><b>clintfsu813</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>It would have if they had moved him prior to October 2009. We dont win that Championship without Arod.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, but, what if we find out that &#8220;we don&#8217;t win that that Championship&#8221; without Arod powered by HGH?  Doesn&#8217;t that take away from it &#8211; considering the LARGE role he played in getting the Yankees thru this past post-season compared to the tank jobs he did in previous Yankees post-seasons?</p>
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