• Cashman: Yanks Fans & Media Are Like Dealing With Forensic Scientists

    Posted by on April 11th, 2010 · Comments (15)

    Just saw this from George King last Friday -

    [Brian] Cashman had to be a happy man watching Wednesday’s 3-1 victory with two of his offseason acquisitions playing a big role.

    Curtis Granderson hit the game-winning home run, his second in the series, and Chan Ho Park pitched three innings of relief to get the ball to Rivera.

    “With the forensic science that comes in our market that the fan base and the media apply, it’s nice for the new additions to do well early,” Cashman said. “It’s always a tough road. It just makes the road easier if you can get out of the gate on a good note.

    “They both have earned their stripes rather early, and it’s nice.”

    …With the forensic science that comes in our market that the fan base and the media apply, it’s nice for the new additions to do well early. It’s always a tough road. It just makes the road easier if you can get out of the gate on a good note…

    Sure. It can be a tough road – sometimes. But, not an impossible road. Remember Brian: Tough times don’t last, tough people do. Ask Reggie, Tino, Girardi and a host of others…the race doesn’t always go to the swift, but, sometimes, to those who keep running. If you do your job, and well, in time, the Yankees media and fans will give you the respect that you deserve.

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    Comments on Cashman: Yanks Fans & Media Are Like Dealing With Forensic Scientists

    1. Antiochus Wilson
      April 11th, 2010 | 9:13 am

      Is that the same “forensic science” that enabled fans to see how dreadful Kei Igawa was while you were telling the media how “dominant” he was, Brian?

    2. Corey Italiano
      April 11th, 2010 | 9:22 am

      Sure. It can be a tough road – sometimes. But, not an impossible road. Remember Brian: Tough times don’t last, tough people do. Ask Reggie, Tino, Girardi and a host of others…the race doesn’t always go to the swift, but, sometimes, to those who keep running. If you do your job, and well, in time, the Yankees media and fans will give you the respect that you deserve.
      ———————————
      And that somehow doesn’t apply to A-Rod?

    3. YankCrank
      April 11th, 2010 | 9:41 am

      Come on Steve.

      The Yankee fan base is filled with the most spoiled and irrational fans in baseball, who have unreachable expectations for everybody, think they know everything and not only feel every year should be a Championship, but that they also deserve that Championship.

      Reggie, Tino and Girardi made it because they happened to be parts of special teams that won titles quickly in their tenure. Not every player is afforded that luxury. Like Corey referred to, A-Rod will most likely go down as the best Yankee to wear the uniform in our lifetime and his road will never end unless he magically wakes up one day as a Derek Jeter clone.

      Our fan base and their impossible road is embarrassing if you ask me.

    4. logan9497
      April 11th, 2010 | 9:45 am

      Corey,

      It can never be applied to A-Rod, because there is such an anti-ARod bias in the media and amongst the fans that if they tried to like him and respect him, they would have nothing to criticize.

      The feds are now looking at the people close to him about the Galea thing and talking to presinal about him, all in attempt to see if they can find something on him and make a name for themselves. So if presinal lies, the media will be all over A-Rod saying that he took HGH and other PEDs and calling him a liar. He has n’t spoken to the Feds because he wants to get all of his ducks in a row with himself and his attorneys.

      Beltran and Reyes spoke with Feds in Florida, but when A-Rod wanted to speak with them in Fla, they told him he had to go to Buffalo. WTF.

    5. 77yankees
      April 11th, 2010 | 9:57 am

      Does our GM realize that “forensic scientists” make a lot of money??……

      that pay for expensive tickets and……..

      and expensive food and merchandise………

      that help pay expensive GMs.

      Maybe the GM should ask Jack McDowell and Lee Elia, to name a couple, how wise it is to flip the finger, literal or otherwise, at the fan base.

    6. Raf
      April 11th, 2010 | 10:11 am

      77yankees wrote:

      Does our GM realize that “forensic scientists” make a lot of money??……

      that pay for expensive tickets and……..

      and expensive food and merchandise………

      and in many cases are dumber than a bag of hammers….

    7. 77yankees
      April 11th, 2010 | 10:37 am

      Raf wrote:

      77yankees wrote:
      Does our GM realize that “forensic scientists” make a lot of money??……
      that pay for expensive tickets and……..
      and expensive food and merchandise………
      and in many cases are dumber than a bag of hammers….

      Well, if they’re willing to pay $xxxxxx a year to sit in front of the moat, that’s another story. But it’s probably written off as a business expense anyway.

    8. Raf
      April 11th, 2010 | 11:08 am

      I’m referring to their baseball acumen, or lack thereof

    9. April 11th, 2010 | 7:47 pm

      [...] right mind, we’re talking about baseball fans.  Worse, New York baseball fans and media, who Brian Cashman colorfully described as “forensic scientists” in their dissection of every decision in [...]

    10. MJ Recanati
      April 11th, 2010 | 8:00 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Remember Brian: Tough times don’t last, tough people do. If you do your job, and well, in time, the Yankees media and fans will give you the respect that you deserve.

      Do your words of wisdom for Brian Cashman apply to you as well? You’ve already gone on record as having said that nothing the man does will ever be enough for you so I guess I answered my own question?

    11. April 11th, 2010 | 8:32 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      I want to see Cashman win a World Series, with a team built entirely by him, with a payroll that’s not $60 million more than the average payroll in baseball. If he can do that, I’d be impressed.

    12. MJ Recanati
      April 11th, 2010 | 9:05 pm

      @ Steve Lombardi:
      You already said there’s nothing he could do to earn your respect so why bother setting up another hoop for him to jump through when you’ll just move the hoop a little further out the next time?

      In any event, the 2009 World Champion Yankees were built entirely by him. Also, for your information, the 2007 World Champion Boston Red Sox ($143,026,313) outspent the average MLB payroll ($82,633,066.23) by $60,393,147.77. I suppose Theo’s as much a hack at his job as Brian Cashman is, right?

    13. Evan3457
      April 12th, 2010 | 12:35 am

      I must be strange. I don’t read that as an insult to the fan base.

      I read it that, as the Yanks have been the most successful team for a long, long time, and they play in the biggest market in the country, everything the team does is scrutinized more closely, as if on CSI looking for microscopic clues.

      I think Cashman is right about that. Yankee fans and the New York Media put everything under a microscope not found in most of the other markets; Boston, St. Louis, Chicago and Philadelphia possibly excepted.

    14. MJ Recanati
      April 12th, 2010 | 6:27 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Boston, St. Louis, Chicago and Philadelphia possibly excepted.

      Having spent seven years living in St. Louis from 1993-2000, I can honestly say that St. Louis is not one of those cities where fans obsess over the 25th man on the roster, etc. There’s no “CSI” going on there, at least not while I was living there.

    15. Raf
      April 12th, 2010 | 8:23 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      I read it that, as the Yanks have been the most successful team for a long, long time, and they play in the biggest market in the country, everything the team does is scrutinized more closely, as if on CSI looking for microscopic clues.

      Given that it’s the NY Post, I’d probably lean towards the “these players have what it takes to play in NY” rigmarole that pops up whenever a player comes to the Yankees.

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