Hughes Near No-No @ Oakland
Posted by Steve L. on April 22nd, 2010 · Comments (29)
Let me be the first to say it here now…
Let me be the first to say it here now…
Phil Hughes was amazing in this game!
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Talk about a nail biter!
Man, these Yanks can kill you with hits one night, and the next its pitching. Daddy likey! Sucky way to lose the no-no, but all in all, its encouraging to get this kind of game out of our #5 guy. Beckett cant even hold down the Rangers, lmao.
Got home and turned this game on in the 7th, and was pleasantly surprised about what was going on. But I can’t lie, I was also looking forward to seeing How Steve reacted to it.
Phil really seems to have three working pitches this year, and so far results have been very good.
Honestly, I thought his stuff was better last game. The difference with this game being he seemed to have more confidence this game with regard to putting the ball over the plate and attacking the zone. Either way, encouraging.
Well, for the record, that’s got to be the putziest way to lose a no-hitter, no?
@ Steve Lombardi:
Looked like it rattled him a little, too. Musta been the worst feeling when he couldn’t find the ball after it hit his wrist.
@ Steve Lombardi:
@ Corey Italiano:
My reaction after he lost the no-no: “Well, at last he didn’t tear his hamstring.”
YankCrank wrote:
I actually thought he mighta hurt his wrist with the facial expressions he gave after the play.
@ Corey Italiano:
@ YankCrank:
So, will this become the “Phil Hughes Signature Moment” snapshot – like Jeter with the flip play or diving into the stands – the sight of Phil losing a no-hitter staring at the sky looking for a ball that’s in front of him?
One thing about this game. Winn looked like he couldnt get a hit if his life depended on it, and man Tex frustrates me. I thought he was getting hot, but he floundered last night looking just as clueless as Winn. P.s. I love me some Gardner! 2 out RBI in the 9th to give MO a cushion was clutch.
YankCrank wrote:
Bingo. The common thread in both of his starts was that he threw his four-seamer, cutter and curveball the great majority of the time. In his first start (4/15), he threw those three pitches 89% of the time and in last night’s start, he actually threw those pitches 98% of the time. The difference between starts was that he didn’t throw his changeup or two-seamer last night whereas he threw those pitches last week vs. the Angels.
Corey Italiano wrote:
Really? I’m somewhat surprised to hear you say that. Unlike last week, where Hughes was losing the strikezone and working deep counts, last night he was sharp and in command of his three main pitches.
I’m curious where you saw better stuff last Thursday.
clintfsu813 wrote:
You bring up a question I asked out loud in my apartment:
When you have a young pitcher on the mound that you’re trying to develop, wouldn’t you want to put your best team out there to support him? In both of Hughes’s starts, the Yanks have given Winn a start. Why take Swisher’s bat out of the lineup on a night where you realistically don’t know how many runs you’ll need to score in support of the “weakest link” in your rotation?
I put “weakest link” in quotes not because I think Hughes is a weak link but because, as the #5 starter, he’s considered the last man on the staff right now.
MJ Recanati wrote:
Last start his fastball had insane movement, which is part of the reason he walked so many batters as it was hard to control. It was darting every which way. This start it was pretty much more straight. I also felt like he had better command of uncle charley in his first start.
One thing he did have last night that was sharper was the cutter. It was pretty solid.
@ Corey Italiano:
how can u possibly think his stuff wasnt better last night?
@ Jake1:
Results don’t always dictate how your stuff is. I happened to think he had better, livelier, movement in his last start.
clintfsu813 wrote:
@ MJ Recanati:
I understood why the Yankees got Winn, and I see value in him as a pinch runner/defensive sub for Swish late in games…but this man appears to be finished with the bat. He’s done a lot of sitting and had very few at bats, but he didn’t come close to hitting anything last night (from what I saw).
Corey Italiano wrote:
I agree that results don’t always dictate the quality of a pitcher’s stuff. I’m just curious as to how you and I could’ve watched the same game and seen different things. To me, his breaking pitch was much tighter last night, with better late movement. His four-seamer was humming too, both up in the zone and hitting his spots on the corners.
@ YankCrank:
@ MJ Recanati:
Yea, if anything play Winn today when CC is on the mound.
BTW, since today is a day game after a night game, Cervelli will most likely catch CC. The firestorm continues…..
MJ Recanati wrote:
Beauty of baseball, right there.
Corey Italiano wrote:
True enough.
MJ Recanati wrote:
i dont see hughes as the “weakest link”. i see Vasquez as the weakest link without a doubt. cant stand vasquez
BOHAN wrote:
I don’t consider Hughes the weakest link either, it was just a figure of speech.
Hugh was way sharp last night. Velocity was good, command was good. Mixed up his fastballs and locations very well. That was a what you hope to see out of your number 1 on his best nights. If that’s the guy we get after all the discussion, hand-wringing, and uncertainty, we’ll all be very happy.
Winn has more hitch in swing than Walter Brennan had in his hip. As he statrs his swing, his hands move down, forward, up and then back before he tries to strike tha ball. He’s all over the place. A sure sign he can’t catch up to an MLB fastball anymore. I’d much rather see the Yankees bring up their best speed/defense outfielder from the minors and let him show what he can do.
#15 wrote:
That’s the problem, there isn’t much down there in terms of outfielders.
Corey Italiano wrote:
No joke. Cashman spent most of his winter acquiring low-ceiling, dogshit-level OF talent for the organization (Gorecki, Golson, Thames, Winn, etc.) and none of them are worth a damn.
Even if what they have isn’t great, one of them must be the “best” of the group.
One other thought…. As it looks right now, that will be our biggest in-season acquisition need. Some outfield bench pop with a reliable glove. Winn and Thames aren’t the answers.
If he keeps playing the way he has, Melky might be available…..
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6347
#15 wrote:
I wouldn’t pay the Braves anything to bring him back. The Yanks already have a handful of 4th OF types on their team, why add to the redundancy?