• June 4th, 5th & 6th @ The Blue Jays

    Posted by on June 6th, 2010 · Comments (12)

    Let’s look at these three game that were just played between New York and Toronto.

    Friday, June 4th: The Jays beat up A.J. Burnett, pretty good, getting six earned runs in six innings against the Yankees #2 starter. And, New York only manages 5 hits in 30 At Bats against Toronto’s pitching. Yes, that’s a BA of .167 – which, ain’t good…ever. Yankees lose this one, 6-1.

    Saturday, June 5th: The Yankees had a 2-1 lead heading into the bottom of the 7th inning in this game – but, Andy Pettitte got touched up for a solo homer in that frame which allowed the Jays to tie the score. And, it stayed that way until the 14th inning when Chad Gaudin blows it for New York. Again, the Yankees bats were MIA in this contest. In total, New York was 8 for 47 in this one against the Jays pitching. And, that’s a BA of .170 – which is just as bad as it was for the Yankees in the first game of this series. Yankees lose this one, 3-2 in fourteen.

    Sunday, June 6th: The Yankees were losing this game, two-zip, heading into the 8th inning. And, then, the Jays gifted four runs to New York in that frame. How? Here’s how the Yankees “offense” went in the 8th inning: Batter hit by a pitch followed by another batter hit by a pitch. Runners on first and second, no outs. Double – one run scores – and now it’s runners on second and third with no outs. Next is a strikeout and an IBB. Based loaded, one out. Then the Jays wild pitch in a run. Another strike out – runners on second and third, two outs. Single – two runs score. So, in total, the Yankees score four – and it’s greatly assisted by two HBP and a WP. In any event, New York now takes a 4-2 lead into the bottom of the 8th inning. But, here comes Joba Chamberlain who almost chokes it up allowing hits to “sluggers” Jose Molina and Fred Lewis. One run does score. However, thanks to Mo Rivera locking down the ninth, the Yankees squeeze out a run-one win – again, assisted by two HBP and a WP in a key inning (late in the game).

    All told, over these three games, the Yankees batters were not very impressive, at all. And, they were spanked by the Jays – and barely avoided getting swept (if not for the Jays pitchers getting wild in the 8th inning today).

    On the bright side, the Yankees next six games are against the Orioles and Astros. There should be at least four wins in there, somewhere, for the Yankees, no?

    Comments on June 4th, 5th & 6th @ The Blue Jays

    1. Evan3457
      June 6th, 2010 | 7:57 pm

      I wasn’t terribly impressed by the Jays, either. Their starting pitchers actually were the best part of the team.

    2. YankCrank
      June 6th, 2010 | 8:33 pm

      It was easy to rip Javy Vazquez apart during his bad starts, so let’s give him some credit during one of his recent string of good ones. The Yanks desperately needed this win today, and he really showed up. One hit through seven innings was damn impressive, and it was what we needed with our poor offensive weekend. Thank you, Javy.

    3. butchie22
      June 6th, 2010 | 8:41 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      I wasn’t terribly impressed by the Jays, either. Their starting pitchers actually were the best part of the team.

      Evan you’re kidding right? No offense meant but I hope so because if you are it might be the most overstated comment I’ve heard on this board this year….next to one of mine of course!;) Not impressed? They almost swept the Yanks save for Clueless Cito Gaston’s stupidity in the 8th inning.They should make him an honorary Yankee for a day for his bizarre moves today. And Yankee fans thought Girardi makes weird moves! Jon Heyman’s comments on Gaston’s actions are priceless:” cito’s call to int. walk Teixeira w/ 1 out and pitch to arod, cano is single dumbest move ive seen this season.more on cito’ nutty call. teixeira is lost right now, arod’s the best hitter with bases loaded, cano may be best, period.” In addition their pen imploded like it did during the Rays series. What is shcoking is their pen went the extra innings and got the job done.

      Are The Bluebirds winning anything this year? I don’t think so. are they gonna be a .500 team at the end of the day when October rolls around? Probably not. But not impressed? Sorry, they did a nice job against the Yanks on what is a rebuilding team!

      And Brandon Morrow outpitched MR JV. As good as JV was today Out Of Control Morrow was slightly better. JV did a very good job today. Is he out of his funk? I don’t know about that yet.Let me see him in Yankee Stadium against Tampa or in Fenway Park and I’ll give him mad props if he suceeds. BUT because I consider the Jays to be a dangerous and a good team for now,Junior Varsity deserves my props. Yeah, Wild Pitch Morrow bested him and Gaston made a mess of things BUT Javy did well. I don’t know if he’ll tailspin into a funk again when he plays in another situation but he’s pitched well against the Jays before. And they do rake and to his credit he only gave up one homer albeit a big one at the time. Not only was I impressed by The Blue Jays, I was also impressed by Javier Vazquez as well!And as the ultimate left handed compliment, Morrow still outpitched him anyway,mates!;) But a job well done nonetheless……

      I’ve heard people on the radio intimate that The Jays have been visting Dr Galea of Aroid fame in downtown Toronto. It’s an interesting theory of course but HGH could be likely as well. Even more so actually…. In this post steroid era it’s funny how some folks can be so cynical.

    4. Garcia
      June 6th, 2010 | 10:29 pm

      YanksCrank is right, we need to give Javy credit for saving this last game. Great job by him and he’s definitely in a much better position to help the Yanks than he was on the 1st of May. Let’s see how he continues to progress.

      Steve, how about 2 well pitched games by the Yanks? The bad: one bad game by your #2 starter, the Yankees offense wasn’t that great for all three. That’s the way I look at it; the Yanks just as easily could have been swept or won 2 of 3. That’s all based on your outlook. It seems your outlook leans more to being 0 – 3. But reality says they won 1 of 3.

      The Yankees starting pitchers kept them in the game for 2 of those 3 games, if today’s score was 3 runs, or more, to 0, then maybe Cito makes a better decision or maybe not. The bottom line, if the Yankees starter hadn’t kept them in the game then it doesn’t allow Cito to make a bad decision.

      The blue jays starting pitching is pretty good. Their SP is the 6th best in the AL, they are definitely capable of shutting down the Yanks, and they are playing some good baseball. Good for them.

      I’m sure, though, you had your Javy and Cashman post written up before the game started. Would love to see it anyway, care to share?

      As for the next: 4 of 6 sounds reasonable. Agreed.

    5. ken
      June 6th, 2010 | 11:32 pm

      Don’t be too hard on Joba. Lewis’s RBI hit was an infield out in most other fields.

    6. Evan3457
      June 7th, 2010 | 2:19 am

      butchie22 wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      I wasn’t terribly impressed by the Jays, either. Their starting pitchers actually were the best part of the team.
      Evan you’re kidding right? No offense meant but I hope so because if you are it might be the most overstated comment I’ve heard on this board this year

      Nope; not kidding at all.

      Their offense is HR or nothing; they don’t hit for average, they don’t draw walks. Of the hitters who are going well on the team, three of them are having outlier years.

      Their pitching was impressive, but their game plan (throw strike 1, get the Yanks to chase their changeups for the out) probably can’t be repeated; the Yanks will be ready for it next time. Morrow was outstanding today, but he had help from a large number of marginal calls (4 strikes on pitches outside even the black, 7 on the black, and Swisher’s non-swing that was rung up by Dreckman without even checking to 3rd. 3 of his pitches in the Brooks K zone were called balls. Vazquez got 1 or two in the black himself, but none outside the zone, and 5 of his pitches in the zone were called balls. In other words, Morrow was +9 on favorable calls; Javy was -3 or -4.)

      As I say, I’m not impressed with them for the long haul. Cervelli did some decoying today; they may be hitting a lot of those HR by stealing location.

      Your mileage may vary.

    7. #15
      June 7th, 2010 | 11:01 am

      I think the big observation this weekend was the clinic the Jays put on regarding how to pitch to the Yankees. Namely, pound the strike zone early and get ahead in the count (take them out of their “make the starter work” approach), then go soft after you are ahead in the count… splitters, change-ups, curve balls, etc… The Yankees saw very few fast balls when they were 0-2, or 1-2, and even 0-1 at times. It left them flailing like they were trying to catch flies out of the air.

      On the Jays power-approach to the game and where they are headed? If they can pitch the way they did this weekend, they’ll be tough, and might make it tough for 2 playoff teams to come out of the AL East as they beat each other up for the next 4 months. But with lesser pitching, waiting on the dingers to score your runs will ultimately lead to a series of losing streaks.

      Javy deserves his props.

    8. June 7th, 2010 | 11:42 am

      #15 wrote:

      I think the big observation this weekend was the clinic the Jays put on regarding how to pitch to the Yankees. Namely, pound the strike zone early and get ahead in the count (take them out of their “make the starter work” approach), then go soft after you are ahead in the count… splitters, change-ups, curve balls, etc…

      Amen. I wonder how much of that came from Jose Molina intel – him watching the Yankees hitters now for a few years?

    9. butchie22
      June 7th, 2010 | 11:47 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      butchie22 wrote:Evan3457 wrote:
      I wasn’t terribly impressed by the Jays, either. Their starting pitchers actually were the best part of the team.
      Evan you’re kidding right? No offense meant but I hope so because if you are it might be the most overstated comment I’ve heard on this board this yearNope; not kidding at all.Their offense is HR or nothing; they don’t hit for average, they don’t draw walks. Of the hitters who are going well on the team, three of them are having outlier years.Their pitching was impressive, but their game plan (throw strike 1, get the Yanks to chase their changeups for the out) probably can’t be repeated; the Yanks will be ready for it next time. Morrow was outstanding today, but he had help from a large number of marginal calls (4 strikes on pitches outside even the black, 7 on the black, and Swisher’s non-swing that was rung up by Dreckman without even checking to 3rd. 3 of his pitches in the Brooks K zone were called balls. Vazquez got 1 or two in the black himself, but none outside the zone, and 5 of his pitches in the zone were called balls. In other words, Morrow was +9 on favorable calls; Javy was -3 or -4.)As I say, I’m not impressed with them for the long haul. Cervelli did some decoying today; they may be hitting a lot of those HR by stealing location. Your mileage may vary.

      Only an Old Yankee fan such as myself could expect this cyncism coming from another Yankee fan! Sorry,mate I give them props for taking those two games AND almost sweeping the Yanks.No spin can take that away from The Men in Blue.People like Adam The Bullshit artist and Mike of Miked Up were saying that the Yanks were going to bombard them and teach them a lesson…guess what they didn’t! Props goes to The Jays for playing this well against the Yankees. If I can praise Junior Varsity for one game,I also have to give praise to the opposing team as well. Once again, Morrow outpitched JV. As for the strike calling Evan, watch the 29 other teams in baseball on a regular basis and you’ll see that the Yanks along with the Red Sox are a team that usually get the calls for them NOT against them. Please no whining here, I watch a gazillion other games and the Yanks benefit from unfair calling all the time. BUT this time unfortunately,it happened to them. But despite that fact ,Morrow stuff was sick yesterday. He was pretty bloody spot on.

      If it’s any small consolation, the Blue Jays weren’t that impressed with the Yanks either! I want to give Mike Francesa props for a change for admitting on Miked Up last night that the Jays taught the Yanks a lesson.

      #15 wrote:

      I think the big observation this weekend was the clinic the Jays put on regarding how to pitch to the Yankees. Namely, pound the strike zone early and get ahead in the count (take them out of their “make the starter work” approach), then go soft after you are ahead in the count… splitters, change-ups, curve balls, etc… The Yankees saw very few fast balls when they were 0-2, or 1-2, and even 0-1 at times. It left them flailing like they were trying to catch flies out of the air.On the Jays power-approach to the game and where they are headed? If they can pitch the way they did this weekend, they’ll be tough, and might make it tough for 2 playoff teams to come out of the AL East as they beat each other up for the next 4 months. But with lesser pitching, waiting on the dingers to score your runs will ultimately lead to a series of losing streaks.Javy deserves his props.

      Number 15 ,great stuff all around. Their starting pitching is scary. and the Yanks didn’t even get to see Marcum either. All I can say is that they will be a super spoiler team and that is worrisome. Unlike the bottomfeeders in the league that are not a AAAA team. Look, they aren’t winning anything this year and they are rebuilding BUT when The Bombers play them it’s not like playing Balty OR Cleveland,mates.As for the dingers, yeah they rely on the home run too much and that will arguably work against The Jays in the end. They are an all or nothing team when it comes to OBP and homeruns so it will not be easy when other teams make adjustments. BUT their starting pitching is positively sick. Their bullpen is unrelaible for sure. In the end, they will make things difficult for the other teams only because they are not a real bottomfeeder as it were.

    10. #15
      June 7th, 2010 | 2:43 pm

      I think it was Kim that said Molina had lost 15-20 pounds. How can he or she tell? Flash went all cliche on Molina being a great “blocker”. Nope. Wasn’t and isn’t. His one handed scoop approach, made necessary by his girth, may have cost the Jays the game. Glad he’s gone.

      Steve, not a bad thought, though, that Jose might have helped with the pitching strategy. Not a bad reason to put one in his ribs, especially after Cisco nearly got one in the chin.

      Did anyone hand Buck’s (base)balls back to him? He was laid out. Only his mask kept him from being face down in the dirt. As an old, but still practicing, catcher, just the sight of that had me in pain.

    11. June 7th, 2010 | 3:19 pm

      @ #15:
      I was watching with my son, 6, when Buck got his bell rung. When they showed the replay, I felt it too. My son wanted to know why he was in so much pain – and I told him that I hope he never finds out why that hurt so much.

    12. Raf
      June 7th, 2010 | 8:46 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Amen. I wonder how much of that came from Jose Molina intel – him watching the Yankees hitters now for a few years?

      I doubt it at all. That’s textbook in the way you go after hitters; establish strikes, get them out with balls.

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