• Evan Longoria

    Posted by on June 27th, 2010 · Comments (40)

    I’ve always felt that Evan Longoria was the new Derek Jeter. But, today, Longoria took it to another level. I would trade A-Rod for Evan in a heartbeat. And, I’m not just saying that because of the age, health and salary difference.

    Comments on Evan Longoria

    1. 77yankees
      June 28th, 2010 | 6:44 am

      Yes, but if A-Rod had gotten in a teammate’s face like Longoria did to B.J. Upton, Alex would be portrayed as the bad guy by the media in all of it.

    2. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2010 | 8:36 am

      77yankees wrote:

      Yes, but if A-Rod had gotten in a teammate’s face like Longoria did to B.J. Upton, Alex would be portrayed as the bad guy by the media in all of it.

      So true.

    3. UNC Tarheel
      June 28th, 2010 | 8:39 am

      Longoria is a good player…..but Arod is one of the all time greats….let’s see if Longoria can keep it going at a high level for 15+ years, then we can talk.

    4. clintfsu813
      June 28th, 2010 | 9:06 am

      Yea yea..Longoria is a good guy. I just love seeing the discourse running through that team. Hopefully this will infect the team and they’ll slip even further into their customary 3rd place slot. :D

    5. YankCrank
      June 28th, 2010 | 10:15 am

      I remember when Buster Olney said that this Rays team reminded him of the ’98 Yankees. I don’t seem to remember the Yanks being in 3rd place in June of ’98.

    6. June 28th, 2010 | 10:21 am

      Let’s hope Buster didn’t mean they were like the 1978 Yankees.

    7. June 28th, 2010 | 10:22 am

      77yankees wrote:

      Yes, but if A-Rod had gotten in a teammate’s face like Longoria did to B.J. Upton, Alex would be portrayed as the bad guy by the media in all of it.

      Last time A-Rod got into a teammate’s face was when he was kissing himself in the mirror…and, he did get some heat for that. So, I guess you’re right. ;-)

    8. Corey Italiano
      June 28th, 2010 | 10:32 am

      @ Steve Lombardi:
      Actually, the last time I remember a dugout encounter with A-rod, he was giving Jeter a super wedgie (I wish I still had this video) and had the creepiest face on ever. Anyone else catch that? That was wierddd

    9. YankCrank
      June 28th, 2010 | 11:18 am

      Corey Italiano wrote:

      @ Steve Lombardi:
      Actually, the last time I remember a dugout encounter with A-rod, he was giving Jeter a super wedgie (I wish I still had this video) and had the creepiest face on ever. Anyone else catch that? That was wierddd

      I’ve never heard of this, when was it?

    10. June 28th, 2010 | 2:36 pm

      @ 77yankees:

      I have no problem with Longoria calling out Upton. But, he should have done it out of camera range. What good does it do to air your dirty laundry for everybody else to see?

    11. throwstrikes
      June 28th, 2010 | 2:47 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Last time A-Rod got into a teammate’s face was when he was kissing himself in the mirror…and, he did get some heat for that. So, I guess you’re right.

      Getting in Cano’s face during spring training seems to be working out pretty well this year so far.

    12. throwstrikes
      June 28th, 2010 | 2:50 pm

      Getting in a teammates face in the dugout during a game shows immaturity and frustration, not leadership.

    13. June 28th, 2010 | 3:18 pm

      @ throwstrikes: I know Carlos Zambrano was more outrageous than Longoria, but the principle is the same – why did he get in trouble for showing up a teammate publicly, and why is Longoria being praised for it?

    14. June 28th, 2010 | 3:30 pm

      throwstrikes wrote:

      Getting in a teammates face in the dugout during a game shows immaturity and frustration, not leadership.

      ever hear of things happening “in the heat of the battle”?

    15. Corey Italiano
      June 28th, 2010 | 3:31 pm

      YankCrank wrote:

      Corey Italiano wrote:
      @ Steve Lombardi:
      Actually, the last time I remember a dugout encounter with A-rod, he was giving Jeter a super wedgie (I wish I still had this video) and had the creepiest face on ever. Anyone else catch that? That was wierddd

      I’ve never heard of this, when was it?

      It was last year…I think during the playoffs. I saw it live, it was very, very strange.

    16. June 28th, 2010 | 3:32 pm

      lisaswan wrote:

      I know Carlos Zambrano was more outrageous than Longoria, but the principle is the same – why did he get in trouble for showing up a teammate publicly, and why is Longoria being praised for it?

      Simple. Zambrano had no case. Lee didn’t dog it. He was just pissed about his own pitching stats…probably. Whereas, Upton DOGGED it, BIG time, and Longoria, and everyone else, saw it.

    17. June 28th, 2010 | 3:33 pm

      throwstrikes wrote:

      Getting in Cano’s face during spring training seems to be working out pretty well this year so far.

      Remind me of when that happended this spring and why? I don’t recall it.

    18. Corey Italiano
      June 28th, 2010 | 3:34 pm

      I put a pic up of it thats in the spam, found the video. It’s a poor quality video, so it’s hard to gauge the high level of creepiness…still creepy though

      http://vodpod.com/watch/2372325-arod-grabs-jeters-ass

    19. throwstrikes
      June 28th, 2010 | 3:46 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      throwstrikes wrote:Getting in a teammates face in the dugout during a game shows immaturity and frustration, not leadership.ever hear of things happening “in the heat of the battle”?

      Sure, but that doesn’t make it any less immature and done out of frustration.

      Leadership is about being able to keep your emotions in check in times of frustration and steering the situation to the best result.

    20. June 28th, 2010 | 3:47 pm

      @ Steve Lombardi:
      That is true. But I still think a player confronting another player is best done privately, precisely because the possibility of a reaction like what happened with Upton.

    21. Raf
      June 28th, 2010 | 3:54 pm

      lisaswan wrote:

      @ 77yankees:
      I have no problem with Longoria calling out Upton. But, he should have done it out of camera range. What good does it do to air your dirty laundry for everybody else to see?

      To be fair, it was something said in passing, and Upton went after Longoria. The cameras just happened to pick it up.

    22. Raf
      June 28th, 2010 | 3:56 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      lisaswan wrote:
      I know Carlos Zambrano was more outrageous than Longoria, but the principle is the same – why did he get in trouble for showing up a teammate publicly, and why is Longoria being praised for it?
      Simple. Zambrano had no case. Lee didn’t dog it. He was just pissed about his own pitching stats…probably. Whereas, Upton DOGGED it, BIG time, and Longoria, and everyone else, saw it.

      I guess a comparable incident would be a couple of years ago when Manny and Youk squared off in the dugout.

    23. Raf
      June 28th, 2010 | 3:58 pm

      Anyone remember Langston ripping into Rex Hudler during the 1995 AL West playoff?

    24. clintfsu813
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:06 pm

      @ Corey Italiano:
      It was just for leverage afer a big hit, lol.

    25. June 28th, 2010 | 4:12 pm

      I remember David Wells used to roll his eyes and make faces when a Yankee made an error behind him, and that Derek Jeter confronted him, saying that the team didn’t do that to him when he pitched badly. But I seem to remember that he confronted him privately. Is that everybody else’s recollection?

    26. throwstrikes
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:14 pm

      Steve

      There were 2 columns this spring talking about A-Rod “mentoring” Cano.

      I remembered one was by Joel Sherman and found it-

      http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/driving_it_home_T1TycVPEgqKeA00zpiuQHM

      In the other article it said A-Rod lectured Cano that he was closer to 30 than 20 and with the talent he had he should be in the MVP conversation every year and not just content to play with guys who are. Cano this year has alluded to the conversation a few times in interviews about wanting to be an MVP candidate and not just playing with them.

    27. June 28th, 2010 | 4:17 pm

      Perfect world, sure, you pull a Jake Taylor and drive over to Roger Dorn’s house and serve warning.

      But, again, sometimes in he heat of battle, you forget the cameras are on and you just get in a guy’s face – because you want to nip it in the bud, on the spot, to make sure it can’t happen again, in that game, rather than just let it go for a time when there’s no steam behind it.

    28. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:18 pm

      lisaswan wrote:

      I remember David Wells used to roll his eyes and make faces when a Yankee made an error behind him, and that Derek Jeter confronted him, saying that the team didn’t do that to him when he pitched badly. But I seem to remember that he confronted him privately. Is that everybody else’s recollection?

      Wow, I actually don’t remember that at all! For all of Jeter’s supposed leadership traits, I really can’t remember a single anecdote or article that has referenced Jeter confronting a teammate — politely or otherwise — about his behavior or effort. I don’t say this to mock Jeter, merely to say that I’m (pleasantly) surprised to hear you say that he once did that to Wells. I always thought the confrontational stuff was left to Jeter’s bodyguard Posada to handle.

    29. June 28th, 2010 | 4:20 pm

      @ throwstrikes: Mentoring and getting in someone’s grill are not the same thing, are they?

    30. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:23 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Mentoring and getting in someone’s grill are not the same thing, are they?

      It depends. We don’t know the tone of the conversation nor the intent of it.

    31. Corey Italiano
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:24 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Michael Kay talks about that story a lot…lisaswans memory is spot on.

    32. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:32 pm

      Corey Italiano wrote:

      Michael Kay talks about that story a lot…lisaswans memory is spot on.

      Wasn’t doubting her, just never heard it before.

    33. throwstrikes
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:35 pm

      @ Steve Lombardi:

      Not if you prefer confrontation over results but aren’t changing results what you are trying to achieve?

      Some people may not react well to their “grill” being gotten into. Seems Longoria found out Upton may be one of those people.

    34. Corey Italiano
      June 28th, 2010 | 4:41 pm

      They were playing the D-backs, so Longoria was probably mad that the Rays got the shaft when it comes to talented Upton brothers after he got to see Justin in person.

    35. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2010 | 5:04 pm

      Corey Italiano wrote:

      They were playing the D-backs, so Longoria was probably mad that the Rays got the shaft when it comes to talented Upton brothers after he got to see Justin in person.

      I was thinking about that this weekend after you said something similar from last week’s game when Justin obliterated us (vs. AJ Burnett, I think).

      BJ Upton looked like the real deal in 2007 and 2008 but has been MIA since. Between injuries, slumps, a lack of confidence from his manager and his own immaturity/inability to cope with issues, his career is heading for another city fast. I neither like nor dislike BJ…it just makes me shake my head and think about how both he and Tampa are blowing what could’ve been (and still could be) a good career.

    36. Corey Italiano
      June 28th, 2010 | 6:51 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Makes me wonder if Justin’s outstanding 2009 campaign got into his head.

    37. June 28th, 2010 | 7:06 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:

      Buster Olney talked about it today in his blog. Here’s a link to a story about it:

      http://www.nyat.net/2010/06/derek-jeter-showed-his-captain-skills.html

      Still not sure where Jeter confronted Wells, though.

    38. 77yankees
      June 28th, 2010 | 7:35 pm

      Winning teams have to be able to police themselves to a degree. A manager can only do so much, especially when a player is making 10x his salary.

      We’ve seen teams do it and be successful. The Yankees of the late 70s – Lou Piniella used to tell his teammates to STFU on many an occasion. And if you remember, it was either ’99 or 2000, when Tino & David Cone scolded Posada for criticizing the home plate ump (I think it was Greg Kosc if I remember) who left the game on a 100 degree day.

      It’s probably better if it’s done in private, but some situations are unavoidable, and who knows what Longoria said to Upton – maybe he was out of line with his comments or perhaps Upton just overreacted.

    39. MJ Recanati
      June 29th, 2010 | 10:14 am

      77yankees wrote:

      who knows what Longoria said to Upton – maybe he was out of line with his comments or perhaps Upton just overreacted.

      Probably a little bit of both…

    40. MJ Recanati
      June 29th, 2010 | 10:15 am

      @ lisaswan:
      Wow, I truly had no idea. It’s literally the first time I’m ever hearing about it and also literally the first time I’m hearing about Jeter exhibiting demonstrative, proactive leadership. I’m pleasantly surprised.

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