• Yanks/Jeter – Getting “Messy” Already

    Posted by on November 3rd, 2010 · Comments (17)

    Via Ed Price -

    Derek Jeter’s agent on Wednesday responded to comments from Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner, who went on New York sports-radio stations the day before and sounded cold-blooded about the negotiations on the star’s next contract.

    “While it is not our intent to negotiate the terms of Derek’s free-agent contract in a public forum,” Casey Close told FanHouse, “we do agree with Hal’s and Brian (Cashman, the GM)’s recent comments that this contract is about business and winning championships.

    “Clearly, baseball is a business, and Derek’s impact on the sport’s most valuable franchise cannot be overstated. Moreover, no athlete embodies the spirit of a champion more than Derek Jeter.”

    Close declined further comment, but his words make clear that he and Jeter will seek a deal that rewards Jeter not just for his performance on the field — which declined in 2010, at age 36, but was still top-five among AL shortstops — but also for the value he adds to the franchise.

    Let’s not forget that Jeter’s pride would not allow him to consider the thought of moving off shortstop when many felt it was time to switch positions. So, should we be shocked that “the Captain” expects to get paid as much as possible and for long as…say…the guy who plays to his right? You know that guy…the one who needs a day off per week to keep his strength…

    Comments on Yanks/Jeter – Getting “Messy” Already

    1. Evan3457
      November 4th, 2010 | 5:10 am

      You mean the guy with the OPS of 123, as opposed to 90?
      The guy who was 3 WAR, instead of 1.3? (or 4 WAR instead of 2.5, depending on your source)
      The guy who had a career year in his opt-out year, instead of the guy who had the worst season of his career when his contract was up, and was 4 years younger than the other guy is when the negotiations were held, and who negotiated with the self-inflated co-owner, instead of the GM?

      That guy?

    2. Scout
      November 4th, 2010 | 6:51 am

      I think Jeter’s people will be surprised at how little sympathy and support their client receives from Yankee fans if he seeks a long-term contract. The decline in his game is evident to everyone. Should he get a contract of more than two years, it will be a clear sign that Cashman does not have a tight hold on personnel decisions.

      The Yankees should send signs they are prepared to move forward in another direction. This might include conversations with free agent SS/3B types such as Adrian Beltre (e.g., he’d move in at third, A-Rod woudl become a DH most of the time, and the Yankees would emphasize defense at short).

    3. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 8:25 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      You mean the guy with the OPS of 123, as opposed to 90?
      The guy who was 3 WAR, instead of 1.3? (or 4 WAR instead of 2.5, depending on your source)
      The guy who had a career year in his opt-out year, instead of the guy who had the worst season of his career when his contract was up, and was 4 years younger than the other guy is when the negotiations were held, and who negotiated with the self-inflated co-owner, instead of the GM?
      That guy?

      Yep, that guy. LOL!

    4. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 8:33 am

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      You know that guy…the one who needs a day off per week to keep his strength…

      Jeter could’ve used off-days too and, frankly, I’m surprised Girardi didn’t demand it. If nothing else, the Yanks could’ve used off-days from Jeter, if only because he was an automatic out in 2010.

    5. YankCrank
      November 4th, 2010 | 9:09 am

      Scout wrote:

      I think Jeter’s people will be surprised at how little sympathy and support their client receives from Yankee fans if he seeks a long-term contract.

      I’m not so sure. For every person that understands the year Jeter had in 2010 and his age, there are 50 Yankee fans that go by “Derek Jeter is the best and most clutch Yankee, give him what he wants!”

      I love Derek and fully expect him to be paid well in his new deal, anybody who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. I just hope they vastly overpay in dollars and not years.

    6. Raf
      November 4th, 2010 | 9:50 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Jeter could’ve used off-days too and, frankly, I’m surprised Girardi didn’t demand it.

      As am I. Vazquez’s decline in velocity, Granderson rarely leading off, not dropping Teix down in the order, not sending Joba down, the “resting” players mantra, among other things all left me a bit perplexed.

    7. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 10:01 am

      @ YankCrank:
      Not sure I agree. Back when Pettitte was up for a new contract coming off his disappointing 2008 season and the Yankees were asking him to take a pay-cut, there were plenty of people that weren’t on Andy’s side and who were saying that he could either take what the Yanks were giving him or retire.

    8. Scout
      November 4th, 2010 | 10:30 am

      YankCrank wrote:

      For every person that understands the year Jeter had in 2010 and his age, there are 50 Yankee fans that go by “Derek Jeter is the best and most clutch Yankee, give him what he wants!”

      Perhaps some will say that now, but once the season begins all they’ll care about is whether the team wins. Fans loved Bernie Williams, but when he lost his skills they were ready to move on.

    9. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 10:39 am

      Scout wrote:

      Fans loved Bernie Williams, but when he lost his skills they were ready to move on.

      Exactly. Laundry first, wearers of it second.

    10. November 4th, 2010 | 11:19 am

      Um, when, exactly, did A-Rod get that “day off per week to keep his strength” this year? He played in 137 games this year, and started 134 of them. He missed 25 games. 15 of those games he was on the DL, and three games he was injured before getting put on the DL. That’s 18. He also injured himself in a game in Baltimore, and missed the next four games. That’s 22, all due to injury-related issues. So, we’re talking about three missing starts here — not exactly a game off a week.

      At any rate, as M.J. notes, maybe Jeter could have used some time off himself. I’ve heard some suggest that maybe he was nursing some injury. If that’s the case, he didn’t do the team any favors playing through it.

    11. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 12:11 pm

      @ lisaswan:
      LOL, props to you for actually doing the math. To be honest, Steve’s contention seemed right to me but, upon closer examination, you’re absolutely correct. Alex played through most of his ailments and slumps this year, as did Jeter.

      My BS detector must be broken because normally I’d catch Steve in the act…

    12. Corey Italiano
      November 4th, 2010 | 12:14 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Granderson rarely leading off,

      You wanted to see that?

    13. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 1:25 pm

      Corey Italiano wrote:

      You wanted to see that?

      Regularly, no. But it wouldn’t have hurt to experiment during the latter part of the season when (1) Grandy was on fire and (2) Jeter and Gardner were both slumping badly.

    14. Corey Italiano
      November 4th, 2010 | 1:39 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      That’s fine, but even when Grandy was on fire he was barely getting on at a ~.350 clip. That’s not leadoff material. I would have rather seen Gardner at the top of the order a little bit more.

    15. MJ Recanati
      November 4th, 2010 | 3:36 pm

      @ Corey Italiano:
      Fair enough but Jeter’s OBP was .340 for the season so it wouldn’t have done any harm to have a smoking hot Grandy getting the extra AB’s that Jeter was wasting for at least part of the 2nd half.

    16. November 4th, 2010 | 3:53 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Thanks, MJ! I thought it was very interesting that even Jeter’s agent didn’t say that the Yanks would be paying for great future performance; only rewarding the past.

    17. MJ Recanati
      November 5th, 2010 | 10:09 am

      lisaswan wrote:

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Thanks, MJ! I thought it was very interesting that even Jeter’s agent didn’t say that the Yanks would be paying for great future performance; only rewarding the past.

      LOL, when the player’s agent says that, GM’s should know enough to run as fast as they can away from the player. Anyone that doesn’t even try to sell their player as able to contribute and is only selling the past must know the meat is rotten and starting to stink…

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