• The Best & Worst Yankees Of The Last 5 Years

    Posted by on January 3rd, 2011 · Comments (25)

    Stats via the Complete Baseball Encyclopedia. From A-Rod to Melky, and from Mo to Ponson, here’s all the boys Brian Cashman has carried on the Yankees roster over the last 5 years and how they’ve done, overall.

    Feel free to discuss these players in the comments section herein.

    Player                          RCAA      PA
    1    Alex Rodriguez              215     3106
    T2   Jorge Posada                 94     2218
    T2   Derek Jeter                  94     3552
    4    Johnny Damon                 83     2525
    5    Jason Giambi                 74     1447
    6    Robinson Cano                70     3181
    7    Mark Teixeira                69     1419
    8    Hideki Matsui                61     1738
    9    Bobby Abreu                  55     1631
    10   Nick Swisher                 44     1242
    T11  Marcus Thames                 8      237
    T11  Brett Gardner                 8      994
    13   Curtis Granderson             6      528
    T14  Kevin Thompson                2       60
    T14  Kevin Reese                   2       14
    T14  Gary Sheffield                2      166
    T17  Juan Miranda                  1       94
    T17  Eric Hinske                   1       98
    T17  Doug Mientkiewicz             1      192
    T20  Richie Sexson                 0       35
    T20  Cody Ransom                   0      137
    T20  Aaron Guiel                   0       92
    T20  Andy Cannizaro                0        9
    T20  Chris Basak                   0        1
    T25  Bernie Williams              -1      462
    T25  Chris Stewart                -1        3
    T25  Bronson Sardinha             -1       12
    T25  Jerry Hairston Jr.           -1       93
    T25  Xavier Nady                  -1      276
    T25  Freddy Guzman                -1        7
    T25  Justin Christian             -1       43
    T32  Nick Green                   -2       82
    T32  Chad Huffman                 -2       21
    T32  Nick Johnson                 -2       98
    T32  Kevin Cash                   -2       28
    T36  Greg Golson                  -3       23
    T36  Eduardo Nunez                -3       53
    T36  Angel Berroa                 -3       24
    T39  Terrence Long                -4       40
    T39  Lance Berkman                -4      123
    T39  Josh Phelps                  -4       88
    T39  Austin Kearns                -4      119
    T39  Randy Winn                   -4       71
    T44  Kevin Russo                  -5       54
    T44  Colin Curtis                 -5       64
    T44  Kelly Stinnett               -5       87
    T44  Sal Fasano                   -5       57
    T44  Shelley Duncan               -5      163
    T44  Chad Moeller                 -5      118
    50   Bubba Crosby                 -6       96
    51   Morgan Ensberg               -7       80
    T52  Craig Wilson                 -8      109
    T52  Ivan Rodriguez               -8      101
    T54  Alberto Gonzalez            -10       73
    T54  Wil Nieves                  -10       72
    T56  Wilson Betemit              -11      290
    T56  Francisco Cervelli          -11      423
    58   Ramiro Pena                 -16      288
    59   Miguel Cairo                -17      365
    60   Andy Phillips               -19      470
    61   Jose Molina                 -33      523
    62   Melky Cabrera               -35     2129
    Pitcher                         RSAA      IP
    1    Mariano Rivera               94    343.1
    2    C.C. Sabathia                61    467.2
    3    Andy Pettitte                36    743
    4    Mike Mussina                 34    549.2
    5    Joba Chamberlain             27    353.1
    6    Brian Bruney                 20    144
    7    Chien-Ming Wang              18    554.1
    8    Alfredo Aceves               17    126
    9    Scott Proctor                14    156.2
    T10  Mike Myers                   13     71.1
    T10  Phil Hughes                  13    369
    12   Kerry Wood                   11     26
    T13  Boone Logan                   7     40
    T13  David Robertson               7    135.1
    15   Matt Smith                    6     12
    T16  Phil Coke                     5     74.2
    T16  Chad Gaudin                   5     90
    T16  Roger Clemens                 5     99
    19   Dan Giese                     4     43.1
    T20  Kyle Farnsworth               3    170.1
    T20  Luis Vizcaino                 3     75.1
    22   Romulo Sanchez                2      4.1
    T23  Jose Veras                    1    103.2
    T23  Josh Towers                   1      5.1
    T25  Chris Britton                 0     35.2
    T25  Scott Patterson               0      1.1
    T25  Nick Swisher                  0      1
    T25  Humberto Sanchez              0      2
    T25  Ivan Nova                     0     42
    T30  Jonathan Albaladejo          -1     59.1
    T30  Mark Melancon                -1     20.1
    T30  Michael Dunn                 -1      4
    T33  Jaret Wright                 -2    140.1
    T33  Brett Tomko                  -2     20.2
    T35  Chase Wright                 -3     10
    T35  Royce Ring                   -3      2.1
    T35  Colter Bean                  -3      5
    T35  Matt DeSalvo                 -3     23
    T35  Jim Brower                   -3      3.1
    T35  Dustin Moseley               -3     65.1
    T41  Chan Ho Park                 -4     35.1
    T41  Kris Wilson                  -4      8.1
    T41  Ron Villone                  -4    122.2
    T41  Cory Lidle                   -4     45.1
    T41  Tanyon Sturtze               -4     10.2
    T46  Carl Pavano                  -5     45.2
    T46  Scott Erickson               -5     11.1
    T46  Billy Traber                 -5     16.2
    T46  Tyler Clippard               -5     27
    50   LaTroy Hawkins               -6     41
    T51  Octavio Dotel                -7     10
    T51  Jeff Karstens                -7     57.1
    T51  Sergio Mitre                 -7    105.2
    T54  Edwar Ramirez                -8     98.1
    T54  Damaso Marte                 -8     49.1
    T54  A.J. Burnett                 -8    393.2
    T54  T.J. Beam                    -8     18
    T54  Ross Ohlendorf               -8     46.1
    59   Anthony Claggett             -9      2.2
    T60  Ian Kennedy                 -10     59.2
    T60  Darrell Rasner              -10    158.1
    62   Sean Henn                   -11     46
    63   Aaron Small                 -13     27.2
    64   Javier Vazquez              -14    157.1
    65   Randy Johnson               -15    205
    66   Kei Igawa                   -16     71.2
    67   Shawn Chacon                -19     63
    68   Sidney Ponson               -23     96.1

    Comments on The Best & Worst Yankees Of The Last 5 Years

    1. MJ Recanati
      January 3rd, 2011 | 9:29 am

      Wow. I’m blown away at A-Rod’s monster lead over his teammates.

      I’m also impressed at how much good work Sabathia has done in two years.

    2. January 3rd, 2011 | 9:57 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Wow. I’m blown away at A-Rod’s monster lead over his teammates.

      82 RCAA in his “opt out” year gives him a huge boost.

    3. #15
      January 3rd, 2011 | 10:03 am

      Joba? Really? Doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in the stat. Although I never cared for Gary Sheffield, he did swing a lethal bat. The timeframe warps his contributions with the stick.

    4. Raf
      January 3rd, 2011 | 10:07 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      I’m also impressed at how much good work Sabathia has done in two years.

      What about #62? 🙂

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      82 RCAA in his “opt out” year gives him a huge boost.

      Hopefully, this bodes well for Sabathia.

      I’m surprised that Sheffield and Bernie didn’t rank higher. Then again, Bernie’s last few years were kinda rough.

    5. January 3rd, 2011 | 10:49 am

      Joba had 32 RSAA in his first 124.3 big league innings. After that, he had -5 RSAA. (He had -6 in 2009 and +1 in 2010.)

    6. January 3rd, 2011 | 10:52 am

      Numbers 50 thru 68 on the pitchers list, now, that’s a highlight on Cashman’s resume. 😉

    7. #15
      January 3rd, 2011 | 11:27 am

      How ’bout this for a plan?… Put Igawa on the 25 man and throw him out there in every junk time situation until he can’t reach home plate on the fly. Up by 10, down by 10, back to back days, multiple innings 3, 4 days in a row, both ends of a doubleheader. Chasing 5 in the 8th inning? Gimme the rightie. Up by 6 in the 7th? Gimme the rightie. etc… Get this guy 140 innings by the break and don’t have a single other pitcher work in garbage time.

    8. bags
      January 3rd, 2011 | 11:33 am

      Steve what do you mean by the “numbers 50-68” comment. If you make a list of all players on the team from best to worst, you are by definition going to have worst players at the bottom of the list. How do you feel about #’s 1-18? It is just the other side of the same coin.

    9. MJ Recanati
      January 3rd, 2011 | 11:37 am

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      82 RCAA in his “opt out” year gives him a huge boost.

      You can’t qualify this one away, Steve. If you’re going to cite the stat as valuable in proving your point about pitchers 50-68 then you have to accept A-Rod’s contributions.

      Once again, you have demonstrated a logical inconsistency to your arguments.

    10. Raf
      January 3rd, 2011 | 12:08 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Joba had 32 RSAA in his first 124.3 big league innings. After that, he had -5 RSAA. (He had -6 in 2009 and +1 in 2010.)

      Just giving MJ the needle, knowing how much he dislikes Joba 🙂

      @ #15:
      You’ll have to get Igawa on the 40-man first. I will be very surprised if Igawa pitches for the Yanks. He’s gone after this year; his contract’s up.

    11. January 3rd, 2011 | 12:11 pm

      bags wrote:

      Steve what do you mean by the “numbers 50-68″ comment. If you make a list of all players on the team from best to worst, you are by definition going to have worst players at the bottom of the list. How do you feel about #’s 1-18? It is just the other side of the same coin.

      Here they are:

      Pitcher                         RSAA      IP
      1    Mariano Rivera               94    343.1
      2    C.C. Sabathia                61    467.2
      3    Andy Pettitte                36    743
      4    Mike Mussina                 34    549.2
      5    Joba Chamberlain             27    353.1
      6    Brian Bruney                 20    144
      7    Chien-Ming Wang              18    554.1
      8    Alfredo Aceves               17    126
      9    Scott Proctor                14    156.2
      T10  Mike Myers                   13     71.1
      T10  Phil Hughes                  13    369
      12   Kerry Wood                   11     26
      T13  Boone Logan                   7     40
      T13  David Robertson               7    135.1
      15   Matt Smith                    6     12
      T16  Phil Coke                     5     74.2
      T16  Chad Gaudin                   5     90
      T16  Roger Clemens                 5     99
      

      You tell me – how many were on the team because of Cashman. Not Mo. Not Pettitte.

      OK, from those that were Cashman, how many were no brainer and/or money deals. Like CC, Mussina, Clemens, etc. A ten-year old with the Steinbrenner checkbook could make those deals.

      OK, now, tell me, from those that were Cashman, and not mega money deals, who is still on the team and/or still producing well for the Yankees?

      Please, tell me.

    12. January 3rd, 2011 | 12:14 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      82 RCAA in his “opt out” year gives him a huge boost.

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      You can’t qualify this one away, Steve. If you’re going to cite the stat as valuable in proving your point about pitchers 50-68 then you have to accept A-Rod’s contributions.Once again, you have demonstrated a logical inconsistency to your arguments.

      Know how many RCAA A-Rod had in 2010? Just 17. Yikes!

      But, if you say that we have to accept those past contributions, and celebrate him based on those too, then you have to do the same for Joba and Jeter – after all, they were great in past years too. You willing to do that now?

    13. Evan3457
      January 3rd, 2011 | 12:22 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      Numbers 50 thru 68 on the pitchers list, now, that’s a highlight on Cashman’s resume.

      Hmmm…even among those bottom 19, you still have

      #67, whose pitching helped them win the division in 2005, and then he pitched a good game vs. the Angels in the ALDS.

      #65, who pitched quite well in 2005, before succumbing to old age/creaky bones in 2006.

      #55, who pitched crucial innings in the post-season of 2009 and helped them win a title.

      I wonder if any other team’s bottom 19 pitchers can boast three guys with positive contributions like those.

    14. #15
      January 3rd, 2011 | 12:34 pm

      @ Raf:
      On Iggy… My point exactly, so send him home with his arm in a sling. I want him in every LLPS (Low Leverage Pitching Situation). Don’t waste a precious inning out of anyone that has a chance of contributing on a day when we are in a position to win a game. AJ blows up in the 3rd inning and we are down by 7 runs?… Gimmie the rightie for the last 6 and 2/3’s. It might cost us a few come-from-behind wins along the way, but Iggy will know every time he’s handed the ball, it’s his until it’s over, or we make it close.

    15. Raf
      January 3rd, 2011 | 12:50 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      You tell me – how many were on the team because of Cashman. Not Mo. Not Pettitte.

      FWIW, Mo signed a series of contracts starting in 2000. Pettitte returned after the 2006 season.

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      But, if you say that we have to accept those past contributions, and celebrate him based on those too, then you have to do the same for Joba and Jeter – after all, they were great in past years too. You willing to do that now?

      Regardless, even if you take away the 82 RCAA season in 2007, Rodriguez is still left with 133 RCAA. It may not be as impressive, but it’s still a decent lead over Posada and Jeter.

    16. Raf
      January 3rd, 2011 | 12:52 pm

      @ #15:
      It doesn’t make sense to throw games. And again, who does Igawa replace on the 40 man, who does he replace on the 25 man?

      I’d have a hard time endorsing a strategy that may “cost us a few come-from-behind wins along the way.”

    17. MJ Recanati
      January 3rd, 2011 | 1:24 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      But, if you say that we have to accept those past contributions, and celebrate him based on those too, then you have to do the same for Joba and Jeter – after all, they were great in past years too. You willing to do that now?

      This column is about the past five years, right? That was your title for the post, right?

      I was marveling at A-Rod’s contribution over the past five years because that’s not only the title of the post but the only data available.

      I didn’t bring up Joba Chamberlain, Derek Jeter, or anyone else. I have no idea what you’re talking about and, frankly, I find your constant qualifiers to be tedious.

    18. GDH
      January 3rd, 2011 | 1:25 pm

      Steve Lombardi wrote:

      no brainer and/or money deals. Like CC, Mussina, Clemens, etc. A ten-year old with the Steinbrenner checkbook could make those deals.

      Gotta call you on this one Steve. I know you don’t care for Cashman’s record as a GM, but this makes no sense whatsoever. What’s the difference between a no-brainer cash deal like Pavano (at the time) that 3 or 4 Gm’s were ready to make – and CC Sabathia (which at least three other GM’s were ready to make? One makes Cashman brilliant and the other makes him a turd? It’s irrational. At the time they were both at the top of the FA class – best available. If you have a hole and you have the money, you do the best deal you can and get the player.

      Sabean’s no better – in fact he may be much worse at this aspect. When he finally got Bonds off the books and had the checkbook burning a hole in his pocket, what did he do? spent a fortune on a mediocre guys like Zito and Rowand (See Epstein, Theo on Matsuzaka, Lackey, etc) one of whom barely made the playoff roster and the other who didn’t even make it the year they finally went all the way!

      Sorry bud, the ten-year-old-with-a-checkbook argument has more holes in it than a hunk of Jarlsberg.

    19. MJ Recanati
      January 3rd, 2011 | 1:28 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Just giving MJ the needle, knowing how much he dislikes Joba

      No one can argue that the 2007 and 2008 Joba Chamberlain weren’t magical and entertaining. My dislike of Chamberlain aside, I’ve never discounted the good things he did at the start of his career.

      If Chamberlain can ever figure out how to get back to those levels, I’d be thrilled. Personally, I just don’t see it happening. But that won’t stop me from being happy if it does. On balance, I love the Yankees far more than I hate #62.

    20. Evan3457
      January 3rd, 2011 | 1:52 pm

      GDH wrote:

      At the time they were both at the top of the FA class – best available.

      Well, technically, Pedro was the top of Pavano’s FA class, but for several reasons (mainly, he and Posada would’ve killed each other) the Yanks weren’t gonna sign Pedro.

    21. Mr. Sparkle
      January 3rd, 2011 | 2:07 pm

      Stats are nice, but a list like this has to look beyond stats. For example, Shawn Chacon is next to last, but he was a pretty important player for the Yanks in 2005, even pitching well in an ALDS elimination game, which the Yankees won. To say he was worse than Sean Henn, Kei Igawa or Chris Britton is a little off, I think. As off as saying Alex Rodriguez is THAT much better than anyone else in the last five years.

    22. bags
      January 3rd, 2011 | 2:07 pm

      Steve, it is fairly easy to win arguments (or, rather, appear to win arguments) when you are allowed to retroactively define the evaluation criteria according to your own fairly arbitrary standards.

      First of all, the best pitchers in the game at any given point tend to command “mega” money. That’s the nature of the league.

      Secondly, you can’t penalize Cashman for having (and keeping) players on the team who came along prior to his time. What would you suggest he do? Kick them off the team to prove to you that he’s smart enough to find bargains?

      Third, I don’t think there’s any such thing as a “no brainer” in this league, especially when it comes to pitchers. It seems to me that your definition of a “no brainer” is any pitcher that Cashman signs for league value who is a success.

      Fourth, so now the definition has to include still being on the team? Pitchers (especially non “mega money” pitchers) have ups and downs. Cashman’s job is to get them when they are on the verge of being up and to get rid of them for max value just before they are down. Seems to me he’s done that pretty effectively…

    23. MJ Recanati
      January 3rd, 2011 | 2:21 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Well, technically, Pedro was the top of Pavano’s FA class, but for several reasons (mainly, he and Posada would’ve killed each other) the Yanks weren’t gonna sign Pedro.

      LOL!

      Seriously, though, don’t you think they could’ve found a way to work together? Not that signing Pedro would’ve been a good idea in 2005, per se, but I’d like to think that a guy considered to be such a good leader like Posada could’ve gotten over himself enough to put the best interests of the team first. I imagine he could’ve.

    24. Corey Italiano
      January 3rd, 2011 | 7:17 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      If he couldn’t figure out how to catch Burnett in 2 years, I HIGHLY doubt he could have sat on the same bench as Pedro after ’03.

      He might be a good leader, but the man seems to hold a good grudge as well.

    25. MJ Recanati
      January 4th, 2011 | 8:00 am

      @ Corey Italiano:
      I’d agree with that. Which essentially means he’s not the good leader people make him out to be. But that’s neither here nor there…

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