• What If A.J. Burnett’s ERA Doesn’t Go Below Five In 2011?

    Posted by on August 29th, 2011 · Comments (6)

    Well, no Yankees pitcher has ever made 25+ starts in a season, and lost 10+ games, and had an ERA of 5+ more than once…unless A.J. keeps his ERA up this year. Here’s the list to make this club, to date, including Burnett this year:

    Yankees, From 1901 to 2011, with ERA>=5 and GS>=25 and L>=10

    Rk   Yrs From To Age  
    1 A.J. Burnett 2 2010 2011 33-34 Ind. Seasons
    2 Javier Vazquez 1 2010 2010 34-34 Ind. Seasons
    3 Mike Mussina 1 2007 2007 38-38 Ind. Seasons
    4 Randy Johnson 1 2006 2006 42-42 Ind. Seasons
    5 David Cone 1 2000 2000 37-37 Ind. Seasons
    6 Melido Perez 1 1993 1993 27-27 Ind. Seasons
    7 Andy Hawkins 1 1990 1990 30-30 Ind. Seasons
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 8/29/2011.

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    Burnett is now on the Brian Cashman Mount Rushmore of Pitching Acquisitions along with Javy Vazquez, Kei Igawa, Carl Pavano, Jeff Weaver and Kevin Brown.

    Comments on What If A.J. Burnett’s ERA Doesn’t Go Below Five In 2011?

    1. Evan3457
      August 29th, 2011 | 4:52 pm

      Not really. AJ definitely helped them win a title in 2009. The rest of them…didn’t.

    2. redbug
      August 29th, 2011 | 6:06 pm

      Add Randy Johnson to that stinks up the place list.

    3. KPOcala
      August 29th, 2011 | 6:43 pm

      Steve, how many GMs that held the position more than five years, have spotless records regarding the development and/or the acquirement of pitchers? I think that a hell of a lot of luck and money doth make the great staff. Look at the starting pitchers that won Torre the four rings, only Pettite came through the system. The rest were free agents or trades for veterans that could have just as easily rolled “snake-eyes”. I really hope that Cashman stays for a few more years so that he can be fairly evaluated. Only with years being put between The Bosses’ passing can this happen…

    4. August 30th, 2011 | 10:53 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Not really. AJ definitely helped them win a title in 2009. The rest of them…didn’t.

      His WAR in 2009 was 2.8
      Let’s not make it like Burnett was a great pitcher in 2009.
      Because, he was not.
      Basically, he was about as good as Scott Feldman was for the Rangers in 2009.

    5. Evan3457
      August 30th, 2011 | 11:03 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      Not really. AJ definitely helped them win a title in 2009. The rest of them…didn’t.
      His WAR in 2009 was 2.8
      Let’s not make it like Burnett was a great pitcher in 2009.
      Because, he was not.
      Basically, he was about as good as Scott Feldman was for the Rangers in 2009.

      I didn’t say he was “great” in 2009.

      I said he helped the Yanks win the title. And he did. Which his lousy pitching since doesn’t change.

      And I said that distinguishes him from Vazquez, Igawa, etc. Because it does.

    6. Greg H.
      August 30th, 2011 | 11:42 am

      It isn’t exactly fair to judge a GM’s performance by including only the duds of his record. You could do the same for virtually every GM in the game. Curious, I looked at team pitching since 2007. No time to do an exhaustive analysis, but a cursory one shows Yanks pitching rank in the American League (ERA and opposing Batting Avg):

      ERA: 2007 – 7th; 2008 – 7th; 2009 – 3rd; 2010 – 7th; 2011 – 3rd
      BA: 2007 – 6th; 2008 – 8th; 2009 2nd; 2010 – 4th; 2011 – 7th

      This suggests that Cashman has consistently ranked above the mean, and often high enough to offer playoff success. Not remarkable, but also not a shambles. Since 09, not bad at all, especially considering we did not get Cliff Lee and had to crop together a staff with an inferior FA class (after Lee).

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