• 9 Innings = 3 Hours & 59 Minutes

    Posted by on August 30th, 2011 · Comments (23)

    Crazy game, huh?

    Comments on 9 Innings = 3 Hours & 59 Minutes

    1. Greg H.
      August 31st, 2011 | 1:19 am

      That plunking of Cervelli was total bush league. The tiny strike zone was partially responsible for the length of the game. But in any event, a good win, and a needed one, given the pitching matchups of the other two. Now if we can just solve Beckett, I’ll be a happy camper.

    2. August 31st, 2011 | 6:28 am

      @ Greg H.: I dunno.

      If Manny Ramirez, back in the day, had stomped on home plate and clapped his hands in front of the catcher’s face after a HR, against us, I would have wanted to see him drilled in the next AB. Ditto a lesser player today, say, like Darnell McDonald. That was a stupid move by Cervelli.

      Cervelli needs to tone in down a notch or two. I’m sure the league thinks he’s a bush league eyewashing hot dog. There’s a time and a place and he’s lost the line. I’m surprised he doesn’t get dusted more often.

    3. August 31st, 2011 | 6:31 am

      Back in the day, I used to watch 90% of 90% of the games. That stopped a few years back. Lately, I’m lucky if I watch 50% of 30% of the games. Just too much other stuff going on. I do, however, track the team in other ways on a daily basis.

      That said, watching CC last night, he looked FATTER than ever. What’s he up to, 400 pounds? Yikes.

    4. August 31st, 2011 | 6:33 am

      Is it just me, or, did it seem like the Red Sox should have won that game last night? So many LOB for them – and so many great plays and “At’em” balls going the Yankees way. I really feel like we stole one last night. But, maybe that’s just me?

    5. JeremyM
      August 31st, 2011 | 7:55 am

      @ Steve L.:
      People clap their hands after they hit singles. They can’t do it after big home runs? Manny did far worse after hitting home runs, so that comp is no good Steve.

      That said, Cervelli could stand to tone down some of his antics after strikeouts while catching.

    6. August 31st, 2011 | 8:01 am

      JeremyM wrote:

      People clap their hands after they hit singles. They can’t do it after big home runs?

      If you have to clap, then do it as you’re rounding first or third, in your own space. Doing it at home plate, after you stomp and the dish, and are paused there, right in front of the catcher’s face and in the pitchers direct line of sight is dissing them – not celebrating for yourself.

      That said, this clapping, pointing to the sky, and/or making the sign of the cross every time you reach base has gotten way out of control in baseball. It’s like the endzone dances in football. I just wish these players followed the Paul Brown recommendation (to rookies about
      showboating in the end zone): “Act like you’ve been here before.”

    7. JeremyM
      August 31st, 2011 | 8:05 am

      All right, I just saw the replay on espn (missed it last night) and Cervelli was over the top- it was a clap, but you’re right, it was right in the catcher’s face and was over the top.

    8. August 31st, 2011 | 8:20 am

      Yup, that’s why I totally understand him getting hit. And, FWIW, Lackey did it the right way – no where near his head.

    9. G.I. Joey
      August 31st, 2011 | 9:13 am

      CC was def. getting squeezed with the strike zone and was laboring at some points, but he battled and got the big outs when we needed it. He is a true Ace. I guess he looks slightly bigger than he did at the beginning of the season, but I’m not overly concerned about that.

      I think Cervelli might need to be a little more self aware that his excitement sometimes look like he is rubbing the other teams nose in it, but I think his excitement is a positive for the team moreso than a negative. With all that being said, I think it’s fair that Lackey plunked him.

      As to the implication by Steve that this was the Sox game to lose, I see where you are coming from, but the Yanks do have the tools to beat the Sox and don’t need to rely entirely on luck. However, I will say I think they got lucky with Soriano. He was getting hit hard.

    10. Molon Labe
      August 31st, 2011 | 9:23 am

      In the interest of efficiency, it was considerate of Jorge to make four (4) outs on the first two (2) pitches he saw.

    11. August 31st, 2011 | 9:23 am

      Pedoria swinging at Ball Four and flying out, late in the game, was huge. That one out helped the Yankees get out of what could have been a huge inning if he had gotten on, instead.

    12. August 31st, 2011 | 9:24 am

      How did the ump NOT see Salty take a full swing and award him first base? Joe was right on the money. Who was the home plate ump last night?

      With the fist pumping and all that, I could only wonder how certain closers would react if they were able to be subjected to a plunking (Valverde, K-Rod, etc).

    13. Jim TreshFan
      August 31st, 2011 | 9:51 am

      The Red Sox scored 2 runs on 13 hits—and one of the hits was a homerun. It looked to me like every Yankee pitcher was laboring but still able to get the big out when they needed it.

      As for the effusive Mr. Cervelli, he’s a bit too much for me. But I was still glad to see him score that 5th run.

    14. Evan3457
      August 31st, 2011 | 11:27 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Yup, that’s why I totally understand him getting hit. And, FWIW, Lackey did it the right way – no where near his head.

      No, he didn’t. He hit him on the front shoulder, and that’s plenty near his head. And given the number of times we’ve seen Ortiz and Ramirez stand and home and stare and watch their home runs go out…Lackey and Saltalamacchia made too much of his one clap of the hands crossing home.

      To sum up:
      1) Yeah, Cervelli shouldn’t have done that.
      2) It wasn’t an offense worth a plunking, unless you think nearly every Ramirez home-run-and-watch-and-stare was plunk-worthy
      3) Lackey didn’t retaliate in a classy way; he didn’t plunk Cervelli on his hip, as CC did with Ortiz earlier this year. He hit him on the front shoulder, and that’s too close to the head.
      4) Once again, the Red Sox are allowed to throw at the Yanks without retaliation or punishment.

    15. Evan3457
      August 31st, 2011 | 11:44 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Is it just me, or, did it seem like the Red Sox should have won that game last night? So many LOB for them – and so many great plays and “At’em” balls going the Yankees way. I really feel like we stole one last night. But, maybe that’s just me?

      There were a couple, but not as many as you think:

      The Sox loaded the bases in the 2nd, but Ellsbury grounded out. It was a nice play by Cano, but not hit that hard. In the 4th, when the Sox scored their two runs, CC got the last two outs with K’s. In the 5th was one of the at’em balls: Crawford’s liner to Cano for the 2nd out, when the Sox had runners at 2nd and 3rd. CC ended the inning by K’ing Saltalamacchia. In the 7th, the Sox loaded the bases, and should’ve scored a run on Crawford hit to deep left-center, but Ortiz misread it and it only loaded the bases. Logan got out of the inning by whiffing Saltalamachhia and McDonald, back to back. In the 8th, the Sox could’ve had a real rally after Ellsbury’s walk, but Scutaro’s liner to left-center was run down by Gardner. It was hard hit, but Gardner made a terrific play, hardly an at’em ball. Gonzalez hit a fliner to Granderson that might’ve been trouble if not hit near him. In the 9th, Reddick’s liner to left was a sinker, but Gardner had him played correctly to make the catch.

      So, really…2, maybe 3 at’em balls, plus the idiot play by Scutaro in trying for the hustle double leading off the 3rd following CC’s very long 2nd inning. It’s true the Sox left 16 on base, and were 2 for 13 with RISP, but the Yanks’ pitchers did record 13 K’s, including 5 that ended innings. It was more the Sox’ futility yesterday in the key spots, than the Yanks’ luck.

    16. August 31st, 2011 | 11:44 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Once again, the Red Sox are allowed to throw at the Yanks without retaliation or punishment.

      Kevin Youkilis would disagree when Joba is pitching.

      FWIW, the Yankees could throw at the Red Sox hitters. But, they, for the most part, just don’t. I don’t see how that is anyone’s fault other than the Yankees.

    17. Greg H.
      August 31st, 2011 | 2:34 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Cervelli needs to tone in down a notch or two. I’m sure the league thinks he’s a bush league eyewashing hot dog. There’s a time and a place and he’s lost the line. I’m surprised he doesn’t get dusted more often.

      If being annoying is grounds for plunking, then we may as well be playing dodgeball. Ortiz and Manny are just two examples of many. Okay, Cervelli gets carried away. I get that. But the Red Sox seem to do this stuff all the time, and it’s getting old. And Lackey’s plunking pitch was up – it hit Cervelli in the front tricep. A brushback maybe I could understand. But what Lackey did was unnecessary.

      Steve L. wrote:

      Is it just me, or, did it seem like the Red Sox should have won that game last night? So many LOB for them – and so many great plays and “At’em” balls going the Yankees way. I really feel like we stole one last night. But, maybe that’s just me?

      Steve, I totally respect that you hold the Yanks to a very high standard – but this one is just you. The Yanks also had a few at ‘ems. Jeter had one, Gardner had one, etc. My feeling is that we gutted this one out and got a difficult win.

    18. August 31st, 2011 | 2:55 pm

      Question for anyone out there:

      If Ortiz had homered and then stomped on HP and clapped his hands in front of Cervelli’s face, and then CC hit Oritz with a pitch the next time up, right between the 3 and the 4 on his back, would you be happy with the HBP or would you say it was a bush league play by Sabathia?

    19. Evan3457
      August 31st, 2011 | 3:39 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Question for anyone out there:
      If Ortiz had homered and then stomped on HP and clapped his hands in front of Cervelli’s face, and then CC hit Oritz with a pitch the next time up, right between the 3 and the 4 on his back, would you be happy with the HBP or would you say it was a bush league play by Sabathia?

      You mean like when CC hit him on the hip on June 9th, and he hit 2 run double to knock CC out later in the game, and clapped his hands and celebrated at 2nd base, and then the Yanks didn’t hit him his next time up, like Lackey had no good reason to hit Cervelli?

    20. Evan3457
      August 31st, 2011 | 4:13 pm

      In the last two years with the Sox, Beckett has hit 7 Yankees in 9 starts.
      Lester: 7 in 7 starts in the last two years vs. the Yanks
      Lackey: 4 in 6 starts vs. Yanks the last two years.

      All 3 of these HBP/game rate are way above their overall rates. No suspensions. The total number of Sox players HBP by ALL Yankees’ pitchers in that time is 17.

      Pedro hit Yankees at nearly twice the rate of all other teams combined, including the infamous double headhunt on Jeter and Soriano; never got suspended.

      Alone among the top Red Sox starters for the last decade, Schilling never threw at the Yankees.

      As for Chamberlain, he’s hit two Red Sox, neither one of them Youkillis (Bay and Varitek) in about 54 innings vs. them in his career, which is a lower rate than vs. all other teams combined: 15 HB in 328 IP. He got suspended NOT for hitting Youkillis, but for throwing over his head. Certainly more dangerous, and the suspension was warranted, but if you DON’T hit the batter, he’s extremely less likely to be injured.

      To sum up: Joba got suspended for not hitting Youkillis, and Pedro, Lester, Beckett and Lackey have never been suspended for hitting Yankees at a rate much higher than vs. all other teams combined.

    21. 77yankees
      August 31st, 2011 | 7:21 pm

      I think it would behoove Cervelli to channel some of that enthusiasm into improving that 12 caught stealing out of 90 stolen base attempts the last two seasons.

      But as far as last night, Professor Klumps in the Red Sox dugout did that same nonsense with the bat flip earlier this season, so how did Boston like that taste of their own medicine?

    22. Raf
      August 31st, 2011 | 8:16 pm

      I dunno, I remember the days when a HBP meant that your shortstop or 2bman was going to get carried out on a stretcher.

      Lackey wants to get his panties in a bunch, that’s on him, but whatever happens after, happens. Be it a rolling bodyblock @ 2b or a batter going all “Jose Offerman” on a pitcher.

    23. Raf
      August 31st, 2011 | 8:17 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      That said, watching CC last night, he looked FATTER than ever. What’s he up to, 400 pounds? Yikes.

      It seems he has been getting bigger as the season progresses.

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