• 2,385 Days & Out

    Posted by on October 14th, 2011 · Comments (30)

    I’ve been writing this blog since April 20, 2005. This means, over the past 6 1/2 years, I’ve covered the last seven Yankees seasons at WasWatching.com.

    That’s a long time.

    I know that, several times in the past, I’ve talked about hanging them up. And, I have, somewhat recently, slowed down my pace in terms of posts to this blog.

    In any event, now, I think the time has come for me to shut it down. Related, I expect this to be my last month writing here – and October 31st will be it for me.

    Why? I don’t have the will to deal with more years of the Yankees Front Office.

    Hal Steinbrenner is a paper tiger and shell of what his father was – and nothing like him on the inside. Hank Steinbrenner is the ‘Gob’ Bluth of the Steinbrenner family. Those two, like the rest of the Steinbrenner kids and their spouses, just care about the team making tons of money – and they’re fine with allowing Randy Levine, Lonn Trost and Brian Cashman run the show.

    Ah, Levine, Trost and Cashman…

    Where to start with those three? Heck, I’ll just cut to the chase and say that these three are the kings of “CYA” and ensuring that they insulate themselves more and more to the point where no one can touch them. If Levine, Trost and Cashman were dropped into a tank with nine Great White Sharks, I would not wager a dime on the fish. Levine would talk three of them to death. Trost would bore three of them death. And, Cashman would sign the last three to $40 million five-year contracts to pitch in Double-A, in exchange for letting him live.

    Now, I know that the Steinbrenner kids aren’t going anywhere. Also, Levine and Trost will always have jobs with the Yankees as long as the Steinbrenner family owns the team. So, there’s not much hope for a change there.

    To be candid, and this should not be a surprise to anyone who has been reading this blog for a while, I had hoped that this would be the last year for Brian Cashman. However, it looks like he will get a new deal with the team – after his current contract expires on October 31st.

    In a word: Ugh.

    Don’t get me wrong. I am still a Yankees fan. I will watch and attend the games. I will root for the team to win. And, I will be upset when they lose.

    It’s just that I cannot see myself wanting to write about them anymore – since their Front Office is the same old story…for the last five years…or maybe longer.

    Hey, it’s been a great ride. And, my many, many, thanks to all those who have read this blog and shared great comments and feedback, etc. I will sincerely miss interacting with you.

    For what it’s worth, I will be continuing to add content to the blog at Baseball-Reference.com, if you would like to follow my work there.

    But, unless the Yankees make a change – and the only one that can happen now is Brian Cashman – I don’t see anything giving me the juice to go for another season on writing about the Yankees. In the meantime, the next two weeks should be it for me.

    Comments on 2,385 Days & Out

    1. Scout
      October 14th, 2011 | 11:35 am

      Well, Steve, if you do finally sign off, I can only say I’ve enjoyed the exchanges over the past several years, both with you and with the other commenters. It has been stimulating and entertaining. Thanks for the ride!

    2. Garcia
      October 14th, 2011 | 1:44 pm

      These are getting to the Brett Favre level. Probably worse. I’m retiring, no I’m back, retiring, staying, retiring, staying, retiring ……

      Before it was because people were saying mean things about you, now it’s because of the FO.

      I guess I wish you luck, till you comeback a week later.

    3. October 14th, 2011 | 2:20 pm

      @ Scout: Thanks Amigo! I have found you to always be one of our most astute and civil commentors. And, I have enjoyed what you have shared here.

    4. October 14th, 2011 | 2:33 pm

      @ Garcia: 100% agreed, for the last “I dunno how many” years, I know that I’ve talked about throwing it in. So, if anyone wants to question me this time, I totally understand.

      That said, I’m serious this time. Cashman was granted “full autonomy” before the 2006 season. And, I am convinced, if he gets another deal that the Yankees future will be the same as the last six seasons.

      Bad starting pitching decisions/deals. Teams that beat the crap out of bad pitching. Making the playoffs and then getting bounced – unless a doctor is sticking a needle in someone’s ass. Plus, with the age on A-Rod and Jeter, Tex’s decline, CC’s opt out and weight, and Mo getting older, it’s just going to get worse. And, that’s not even mentioning Burnett.

      I’m not going to waste my time spending another year, or more, bitching about Cashman. And, without question, no one wants to read/hear me doing that.

      I’ll still root for the team. But, I’m done writing about them – unless Cashman goes and then it’s interesting again.

    5. #15
      October 14th, 2011 | 3:01 pm

      Here’s hoping the fever returns next Feb. when pitchers and catchers report. I will for me and I enjoy feeding on that through the conversations here.

      Two other thoughts,
      1) Don’t let Cashman, or anyone else for that matter, define you.
      2) Just think how tough it would be if you’d been blogging about your favorite team…. The Mets, or the Botox, or the Orioles, or the Dodgers, or the Cubs, or the Twins, or the Indians….

    6. October 14th, 2011 | 3:11 pm

      @ #15: Thanks 15. I doubt that P&C will change my mind. And, once I am done, I still want to see those post-camp emails from you! Your scoop is the best in town.

    7. nwyank
      October 14th, 2011 | 3:21 pm

      Bravo! Great job, all the way through.
      If you make it to Seattle, look me up.

    8. G.I. Joey
      October 14th, 2011 | 3:21 pm

      I first discovered this blog in the beginning of 2009 season, so I feel like I missed out on quite a bit here. In any event, I’ve always been a Yankees fan and admittedly I became spoiled during the dynasty, which took place when I was in high school and I could hardly remember what it was like for the team before that. However, this blog and all the commenters here with their insight and knowledge have allowed me to grow into not only a more knowledgeable and more level headed (not completely) Yankee fan, but just a plain old fan of baseball. For that I thank you all and Steve especially for facilitating this forum.

    9. October 14th, 2011 | 3:32 pm

      nwyank wrote:

      Bravo! Great job, all the way through.
      If you make it to Seattle, look me up.

      Thanks – and, you bet. Safeco is on my wish list.

    10. October 14th, 2011 | 3:34 pm

      @ G.I. Joey: It’s been my pleasure!

      If anyone is interested, I can start a Yankees forum over at NetShrine.com for you guys to use. The forum software there is way out of date, but, it still works. The site itself has been stale since 2005 or so. I have no problems with creating a playground there for you all to use after I am done here, again, if anyone is interested.

    11. Raf
      October 14th, 2011 | 5:41 pm

      Scout wrote:

      Well, Steve, if you do finally sign off, I can only say I’ve enjoyed the exchanges over the past several years, both with you and with the other commenters. It has been stimulating and entertaining. Thanks for the ride!

      What he said. :D

    12. Evan3457
      October 14th, 2011 | 5:42 pm

      As always, you gotta make yourself happy first, Steve.

      If it’s not there anymore, it’s no good forcing things.

      Don’t let anyone feel like you owe them something; this blog was yours to start and its yours to end, whenever you want. You have only one life and one set of talents; use them to pursue what makes you happy.

      For my part, I’ve from the moment I found this blog, it’s been useful and valuable to me. Even when we disagreed; maybe especially then. I will miss coming here for the latest in Yankees news, and your different take on things. I’ll miss chewing things over with many of my fellow posters; those I’ve disagreed with and those I’ve agreed with.

      You guys know who you are. ;)
      See you until the end of the month; then see you ’round the Yankee campus.

    13. October 14th, 2011 | 5:54 pm

      @ Raf:
      @ Evan3457:

      Thanks guys! You two have been here a while, always good for comments, and have always been good when we didn’t have the same opinion. And, I appreciate that!

    14. redbug
      October 14th, 2011 | 6:03 pm

      Not news I wanted to read. I understand where you’re coming from, Steve, as my enthusiasm has waned in recent years – more so when they signed Arod than in the FO. But, it really does comes down to ownership. While I gather you were a fan of George’s, I was not. I lost a lot of my love of the Yankees when he was healthy and running things. I got a lot more enthusiastic when he was either suspended or not well and it became Michael’s or Torre’s teams.

      Yours is really the only yankee related blog or site I read daily. I’ve agreed with and appreciated your views and most of your commentators (even when I disagreed, as long as they weren’t disagreeable). I will very much miss checking in each day after work. it’s the first place I’ve gone to.

      Thank you for the many years of smart, funny, insightfull posts you written each day. My beat to you and your family. (I will bookmark NetShrine w/ hopes that I’ll continue to see you around.)

    15. October 14th, 2011 | 6:11 pm

      @ redbug: Thanks. NetShrine is dead – unless some here want a forum there? So, I would hold on that bookmark.

      On George, I will admit, back in the 1980′s, I was not a fan. But, I later learned to appreciate what he meant to the team – that drive and the quest for excellence, and guys who could handle New York. Granted, his methods may have not been the greatest. But, looking at the Yankees now, I am sure that he would not have tolerated a lot of what we see today.

    16. ez569x
      October 14th, 2011 | 8:42 pm

      I am sorry to see you go but I understand completely. I’ve been a reader of WW for the past 5 years and appreciate your writing and perseverence.

      I was hoping to get your advice about how to get the family to the Yankees/Mets game on 10 June next year. The 5 1/2 of us will be in the NY metro area.

    17. October 14th, 2011 | 9:50 pm

      As Reggie once said, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, but I understand”.

      The best thing the Yankees have going for them is the bungling franchise in Queens known as the Mets. The passion of the Boss to make the Yanks the World Champions, may have been misguided at times,may have been nasty and mean spirited at times, but it was also a drive and determination consistent with those that came before, those who made the Yankee name synonymous with champions. That passion, that determination has been replaced by soulless leadership residing in a Yankee mall, “he spit the bit”, has been replaced by “a player’s postseason performance represents too small a sample size to be used in evaluation”. Gun N Roses has been replaced by a lounge singer performing a melody of Michael Bolton hits.

      Steve, thanks for everything, thanks for telling it like it is.

    18. 77yankees
      October 15th, 2011 | 12:02 am

      Six and a half years is a long time to do anything. And if it’s no longer fun or more of a burden, everyone understands and can relate to it somehow.

      Well, at least it never reached the point of that classic Yogi line, “Nobody goes to that restaurant any more – it’s too crowded”.

      Given the number of regular posters though, it speaks volumes that a lot of the content here struck a nerve or hit a chord day after day.

    19. October 15th, 2011 | 7:15 am

      @ ez569x: Thanks for the kind words. Best advice on getting to that game? Stub-hub, or something like that, and be prepared to pay. That’s a ticket that rarely gets discounted that much – since those games are in demand.

    20. October 15th, 2011 | 7:18 am

      Joseph Maloney wrote:

      The passion of the Boss to make the Yanks the World Champions, may have been misguided at times,may have been nasty and mean spirited at times, but it was also a drive and determination consistent with those that came before, those who made the Yankee name synonymous with champions. That passion, that determination has been replaced by soulless leadership residing in a Yankee mall, “he spit the bit”, has been replaced by “a player’s postseason performance represents too small a sample size to be used in evaluation”. Gun N Roses has been replaced by a lounge singer performing a melody of Michael Bolton hits.

      It’s hard for me to disagree with that.

      And, thank you for the kind words, support, etc. And, of course, thank you for your contributions to the blog!

    21. October 15th, 2011 | 7:27 am

      @ 77yankees: Thanks. The burden comment made me think.

      You know, it’s funny. I didn’t realize it until facebook came along, but, my “rep” (it seems) was that of “Super nutty Yankees fan.” For whatever reason, even though I think about the Yankees 365 days a year, am a season ticket holder, have a house full of Yankees stuff, and live and die with the team, it didn’t dawn on me that was my label.

      But, when people started finding me on facebook, people who I haven’t seen since 1980, or 1985, or 1990, that’s the first thing they asked me on facebook, “Are you still a Yankees nut?”

      There’s a whole world of people out there who think of me as some crazed Yankees fan. And, that’s fine.

      But, there’s also a bunch of people out there, because of this blog, who see me as some Cashman bashing Yankees hater and a hack, a moron, etc.

      And, I have to confess, it’s going to be nice to throw a wet blanket on that…burden?…and just go back to being known as a diehard Yankees fan.

    22. Raf
      October 15th, 2011 | 7:57 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      On George, I will admit, back in the 1980′s, I was not a fan. But, I later learned to appreciate what he meant to the team – that drive and the quest for excellence, and guys who could handle New York. Granted, his methods may have not been the greatest. But, looking at the Yankees now, I am sure that he would not have tolerated a lot of what we see today.

      I understood, I still didn’t like it. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. The more I look back the more I realize that had he stayed out of the way the Yankees probably return to the postseason before the 1995 season. I say that with the caveat that collusion played a big role in the Yankees’ decline. Signing players like Jack Morris and Carlton Fisk among others, would’ve made a difference. For all that’s made of the farm system and core 4, when the Yanks bottomed out in 1990, they still were active in the FA market, resigning Mike Witt and signing guys like Scott Sanderson, Jimmy Key, Danny Tartabull, Spike Owen, Mike Gallego, Tony Fernandez, etc, etc, etc. They seriously kicked the tires on David Cone (before he went to KC) and Greg Maddux. I would be willing to wager had the Yanks signed Greg Maddux after the 1992 season, they catch the Jays in 1993 and probably get by the Mariners in 1995. Of course, a healthy Jimmy Key has the same effect in 95 and chances are, they don’t go with Bobby Ojeda or Scott Kamienecki. Maybe they don’t acquire McDowell. So on and so forth, there are so many combinations and permutations as to what could’ve happened.

      They took guys like Jim Abbott, Jack McDowell, John Wetteland, Melido Perez, Cecil Fielder, Ruben Sierra, David Cone, Tino Martinez, etc, etc, etc off of teams that didn’t want to deal with their contracts. Same as before with Rickey Henderson & Rick Rhoden; teams couldn’t afford to keep them.

      What has been going on in NY has been going on since Steinbrenner bought the team. Free agents, salary dump trades and a few farmhands sprinkled in. Same as it ever was.

    23. Raf
      October 15th, 2011 | 8:01 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Thanks guys! You two have been here a while, always good for comments, and have always been good when we didn’t have the same opinion. And, I appreciate that!

      As you know, I believe that disagreeing doesn’t mean that one has to be disrespectful.

      I appreciate that as well, that for the most part it has been a pretty high level of comments and discussion here, which I attribute to the smaller crowd. I mean, I’ve read some of the comments @ MLB, NYDN, LoHud, and… yeeesh.

      Guess I’ll be spending more time @ Bronx Banter :D

    24. 77yankees
      October 15th, 2011 | 10:26 am

      @ Steve L.:

      It sounds comparable to someone who hosts an early morning show on TV/radio for a long time then retires, and they always inevitably say, “Thank God I don’t have to wake up at 3:00 am anymore.”

      Raf wrote:
      that for the most part it has been a pretty high level of comments and discussion here, which I attribute to the smaller crowd. I mean, I’ve read some of the comments @ MLB, NYDN, LoHud, and… yeeesh.

      That’s the anonymity of the internet unfortunately how brazen people are hiding behind a keyboard. On sites like Yahoo Sports where there’s no accountability the comments are like the lowest common denominator: political rhetoric, racial innuendo, etc. no matter what the subject.

    25. Greg H.
      October 15th, 2011 | 4:31 pm

      Steve, thanks for the heads-up on this, and thanks for keeping this going as long as you have. I forget when I started reading this blog, but it’s been at least three, four years, that’s for sure. This has been my go-to spot for Yankees discussion ever since I discovered it. I certainly don’t agree with everything you write, but what would be the good in that? I have really enjoyed your work, and the insights of all the regular commenters on this blog. I’ll be very sorry to see it gone, and I will look around (a little) for all of you out there, whether in Netshrine or somewhere else – so, just a request – if you can keep your handles, that would be great. I know we have a couple weeks left, but to quote Yogi yet again, “It gets late early around here.”

      Thanks for everything Steve.

    26. October 15th, 2011 | 5:11 pm

      @ Greg H.: Thanks for the kind words!

      All, FYI, I have created a Yankees forum for you at NetShrine.com

      Here is the link: http://www.netshrine.com/vbulletin2/forumdisplay.php?f=113

      You will have to register to use it. But, that’s not a huge issue. It’s there for you to use – and I’ll try to check it out from time to time too.

    27. KPOcala
      October 17th, 2011 | 10:54 pm

      Steve, you’ve done a great job over the years and I’ll definitely miss your wit and analysis. I felt sick myself that the Yankees bats turned to sawdust, again. Especially since the pitching wasn’t nearly as bad as predicted. But let’s remember that “The Greatest Team Ever” seems to be a smoldering Bismark, and the Phillies with their vaunted pitching proved, again, that it pitching isn’t the whole game. In fact it could be argued that the Phillies are the negative image of the Yanks. Still, I’m hoping that you reconsider, I have a feeling that the farm system is going to play a big part next year. With Boston devoid of any high level farm talent the Yankees have every reason to be the King of the East. And hell, what if Cashman’s moves or lack thereof prove him to be a very competent GM? Would your mind change regarding Cashman or would you ascribe it to his staff? Something that I hope you’ll reflect on… Well that kind of sums it up. If you decide to shut it down I wish you and your family all the best. Your writings and standards, and the people who follow your blog are the absolute epitome of how blogs should be done. With class, insight, give and take, and lack of the vitriol that rules and ruins so many blogs. Happy trails!

    28. KPOcala
      October 17th, 2011 | 11:02 pm

      PS

      Steve maybe with your free time you can do a “Jordan” and pick-up a hobby such as starting a Fight Club, or skydiving ;) Ciao.

    29. October 18th, 2011 | 10:20 am

      @ KPOcala: Thanks for the kind words. Will the Yankees be the winner of the East again – now that Boston is a mess and the Rays still don’t have any money? Probably – even with Cashman. But, that doesn’t change the way I feel. And, don’t worry, I have plenty to fill my time once I get more of it! :-)

    30. KPOcala
      October 18th, 2011 | 12:11 pm

      @ Steve L.: Yeah, like the old song says, “…and the beat goes on…”

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