• Swisher Wants $100+ Million Contract After 2012

    Posted by on August 21st, 2012 · Comments (16)

    Via Jon Heyman -

    Word going around is, Nick Swisher, the Yankees’ eternally upbeat rightfield power supply, may seek a “Jayson Werth contract” when he hits free agency at the end of the year.

    To baseball fans, that is well-known to mean $126 million over seven years. In other words, it’s a lot more money than most folks have guessed so far for Swish.

    Second-hand or not, some Yankees people have heard that’s the figure Swisher is thinking about and may at least shoot for, and one other source who’s spoken to Swisher said that, indeed, Swisher has shown real interest in Werth’s deal. It’s believed the two sides have had no extension talks yet, as it is team policy to wait for free agency, except in rare cases.

    While the $126-million figure is two to three times more than most of the estimates for Swisher, free agency brings some surprises. The Werth deal, for instance.

    Swisher initially gave the usual player-speak answer, “I haven’t thought about it,” when asked if he sees the Werth deal as a fair comp for him. I tried to lighten the mood by asking if he had ever “heard” of the Werth contract, and Swisher characteristically responded by laughing uproariously. We both know, of course, that any corner outfielder who’s a very good player having a very good year (but is a bit short of being a cornerstone player) has to have thought long and hard about the Werth deal.

    Eventually, he did say about Werth’s Nationals contract, “It’s a great deal for him.” And then Swisher did challenge me to look at the record.

    “Check it out,” Swisher implored me. “See what it says.”

    So I did. And statistically speaking, it’s pretty darned close between the two corner outfielders.

    Werth was 31 when he went into his free-agent offseason, Swisher will be, too. Werth had a 19.2 WAR, Swisher has a 19.0 WAR now. I’m no WAR expert, but I’m going to go out on a limb here and say Swisher’s WAR will be somewhere in the range of Werth’s 19.2 by season’s end, and in fact, perhaps even exactly Werth’s 19.2.

    Swisher (who is 31-years old) is good for 25 homers and 85 RBI a season (along with an OBA around .360). He’s not a great right fielder. But, he’s far from terrible out there. And, he does a surprisingly good job at first base when asked to fill in at that position on a limited basis.

    However, I suspect that, in three or four years, Swisher will decline to the point where he’s a useful bench player, at best.

    If someone wants to give him three years at $35 million with an option for a fourth year, I could understand that deal. But, anyone who gives him a seven-year contract for anything near or above $100 million is insane.

    Comments on Swisher Wants $100+ Million Contract After 2012

    1. Corey
      August 21st, 2012 | 3:20 pm

      If someone wants to give him three years at $35 million with an option for a fourth year, I could understand that deal. But, anyone who gives him a seven-year contract for anything near or above $100 million is insane.
      ————
      No argument here.

    2. Evan3457
      August 21st, 2012 | 3:28 pm

      I have supported Swisher as much as, or more than, anyone who regularly replies here. Having said that, I wouldn’t sign Swisher to a 4 year deal much less a 7 year deal. He’s just reaching the point where players of his type start to decline, and fast.

      2 years, $25 million. That’s it. If it’s not enough, thanks for everything, Swish, and vaya con Dios.

    3. August 21st, 2012 | 3:33 pm

      No way he takes 2 years. Someone will offer him at least three.

    4. FakeGeneMichaels
      August 21st, 2012 | 4:17 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      No way he takes 2 years. Someone will offer him at least three.

      and that might be right Steve, I can see the Giants doing this, but Thanks NICK, nice knowing you!. No way to anything more than two years.

      Has anyone noticed how much is in the budget for Cashman to use after 2013?.. according to COTTS baseball contracts, Yankees have 75mm to sign at least 17 players and be under the Tax cap. I sure hope Cashman and company have come up with some really good accounting ideas, there is no WAY that can happen with Cano, Graddy and others needing to be signed IMO..

    5. MJ Recanati
      August 21st, 2012 | 4:22 pm

      @ FakeGeneMichaels:
      My vote is to let Cano walk too. If there’s one position that historically shows tremendous decline after 32, it’s second base. No way I want to pay Cano a penny after his 32nd birthday. He turns 30 at the end of this season and will turn 31 after next season. I say it should end there between the Yanks and Cano. If not, they’ll end up with the Brian Roberts/Orioles situation.

    6. MJ Recanati
      August 21st, 2012 | 4:22 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      No way he takes 2 years. Someone will offer him at least three.

      Someone will offer him more than that, I guarantee it.

    7. FakeGeneMichaels
      August 21st, 2012 | 4:27 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      My vote is to let Cano walk too

      I read the same thing about 2nd basemans too MJ.. must be the same article but I am with you on this.. The one thing I hope that happens is Cano give ths Yankees a discount like Paul O’Neil did to sign Bernine and company…

    8. Raf
      August 21st, 2012 | 5:35 pm

      FakeGeneMichaels wrote:

      The one thing I hope that happens is Cano give ths Yankees a discount like Paul O’Neil did to sign Bernine and company…

      I doubt that it’ll happen, not with Boras as Cano’s agent.

      What will probably happen is if the Yankees don’t find a full time option at 2b, they’ll find players who’ll platoon there.

    9. FakeGeneMichaels
      August 21st, 2012 | 5:42 pm

      Raf wrote:

      I doubt that it’ll happen, not with Boras as Cano’s agent.

      I thought ACE was his agent or is that Swishers agent?.. Anyway, any agent wouldnt be doing their job if they at least didnt attempt to get the most for their client.. If indeed Boras is his agent, oh well, can Chavez play second and Jason Nix?.. Seems like the Yankees in 2013 might be a team full of part time players.. who would have ever thought this?..

    10. Raf
      August 21st, 2012 | 5:44 pm

      As for Swisher, aim high!

      Don’t know who’ll give him the contract he’s looking for but if he can get it, more power to him.

    11. #15
      August 21st, 2012 | 5:49 pm

      Use the Jeter Model when looking for tone of the next few contract negotitations.

      The Werth deal was/is nuts. 3 years for Swisher at ~ $35 million is not unreasonable given the market. 2 at $27 and a vesting option for a third at an additional $10-11 might work. If he wants Werth type money/length and can find it elsewhere… You go Nick.

      4 and ~ $84 for Robbie. Maybe an option year after that. He’s not your typical 2nd bagger and he’ll hit for a long, long time.

      The fly in the ointment is A-Rod’s contract. It’s clogging the pipes and muddying the water for any combination of players we might consider. Nothing makes sense for a $189 Million cap when one player commands $25-30 mill.

      Fear not. There is a fleet of low price stud pitchers on the farm. It will be CC and a parade cheap of young guns. Burp. Pass the beer.

    12. FakeGeneMichaels
      August 21st, 2012 | 6:00 pm

      #15 wrote:

      The fly in the ointment is A-Rod’s contract. It’s clogging the pipes and muddying the water for any combination of players we might consider. Nothing makes sense for a $189 Million cap when one player commands $25-30 mill.

      Couldn’t agree more with you on this.. In all honesty the best thing that could happen, A-Rod wins another ring this year (tongue in cheek) and retires..Walks away from his contract, gets a life time deal like Reggie Jackson and can come and go as he pleases…Free up all that money for the Yankees and sign Kuorda, Cano, Swish (limited) and Graddy. make a trade for Chase Headly of the Padres problem solved!.. I know PIPE dream to say the least..

    13. Raf
      August 21st, 2012 | 11:27 pm

      #15 wrote:

      The Werth deal was/is nuts. 3 years for Swisher at ~ $35 million is not unreasonable given the market. 2 at $27 and a vesting option for a third at an additional $10-11 might work. If he wants Werth type money/length and can find it elsewhere… You go Nick.

      The Werth deal’s even more nuts considering the deals given to Andrew McCutchen, Jay Bruce, Justin Upton & Adam Jones.

    14. LMJ229
      August 22nd, 2012 | 12:01 am

      The yanks won’t have the cap room to sign Cano, Swisher, and Granderson. Swisher will likely be the odd man out.

    15. MJ Recanati
      August 22nd, 2012 | 11:53 am

      Raf wrote:

      The Werth deal’s even more nuts considering the deals given to Andrew McCutchen, Jay Bruce, Justin Upton & Adam Jones.

      Indeed. However irrational the Werth contract was, I have to believe part of it was to make a demonstrable action for the fans and for other MLB free agents that Washington intended to start getting serious about contending. Rizzo has been too sensible in his other decisions (good drafts, good discount signings) to think he just lost track of what the market was for Werth relative to younger, better players out there.

      Or maybe the owner pulled a Hankenstein…

    16. FakeGeneMichaels
      August 22nd, 2012 | 1:44 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Or maybe the owner pulled a Hankenstein…

      Now that is funny!

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