• Slicing Up The Yankees 2012 Season To Date

    Posted by on August 30th, 2012 · Comments (14)

    The Yankees record this season,  so far, in three slices:

    • Their first 42 games:  21-21
    • Their next 32 games:  25-7
    • Their last 56 games: 29-27

    At some point, you have to accept it:  Sans for that one hot streak where they had a bunch of inter-league games, the Yankees have just been a .500 team this season.

    And, there’s a chance that the O’s, Rays, A’s and Tigers may knock them right out of the post-season picture this year – if the Yankees don’t start playing better baseball.

    Comments on Slicing Up The Yankees 2012 Season To Date

    1. EHawk
      August 30th, 2012 | 2:18 pm

      If they do in fact fail to make it then the only good thing that would come from that would hopefully be the end of Joe Girardi. I was never in favor of hiring him and wanted Mattingly all along. Its tough to blame him since they’ve had a ton of injuries but fact is they would of blown a 10 game lead which in inexcusable.

    2. Corey
      August 30th, 2012 | 5:29 pm

      EHawk wrote:

      If they do in fact fail to make it then the only good thing that would come from that would hopefully be the end of Joe Girardi. I was never in favor of hiring him and wanted Mattingly all along.

      If they miss the playoffs, it wouldn’t be Girardi’s fault. I doubt he’d get canned.

      Managers in baseball are largely overrated. Sure, bad ones can make you lose games. But good ones don’t really add too much.

    3. Raf
      August 30th, 2012 | 6:37 pm

      Looks like they’re right there with the rest of the pack then, what with them 2 games out of the best record in the AL.

    4. August 30th, 2012 | 7:57 pm

      I am a Girardi fan. As a person, he’s off the charts great. A special, special, dude. The kind of guy you want as your neighbor. The kind of man that you want your son to grow up to be…or the one you want your daughter to marry.

      As a manager, I wanted him to be more like Buck Showalter. But, he’s not Buck.

      That said, he’s not terrible and I think he does a fair job. If the Yankees blow this, it won’t be his fault. He just rode the horses that he was given to work with…

      It’s not his fault that he has a bunch of over-priced and easily broken down “superstars,” and a bunch of guys who cannot play anything else but homerun derby. Blame the GM for that.

    5. August 30th, 2012 | 8:20 pm

      EHawk wrote:

      If they do in fact fail to make it then the only good thing that would come from that would hopefully be the end of Joe Girardi. I was never in favor of hiring him and wanted Mattingly all along. Its tough to blame him since they’ve had a ton of injuries but fact is they would of blown a 10 game lead which in inexcusable.

      The best thing that ever happened to Mattingly was his not being hired to manage the Yankees in 2008. If you recall, Don’s marriage was falling apart in a very public way, so public he needed to take family leave from the Dodgers for the first half of 2008. Can you imagne the New York press with a story like this!

      Girardi is a good manager, this is not exactly the 1998 Yankees he’s managing. There is a lot of age, some folks having bad years (Martin, Nova for example). Injuries have been mounting up, and yet the club remains in first place. Let’s see Mattingly acually win something before you tell us what a great manager he is.

    6. LMJ229
      August 30th, 2012 | 11:22 pm

      If the Yankees fail to make the playoffs this year it will be because they couldn’t get a big hit with runners in scoring position all year long. It will not be Joe Girardi’s fault.

      I wasn’t crazy about Girardi when the Yankees hired him and he did nothing to change my mind in his first year. But I have changed my mind since then. I think he has grown into a pretty good manager.

      This team is just way too reliant on the homerun ball. All of our lefties have fallen in love with that short porch and now they strike out alot and don’t hit for a high average. Texiera used to hit for a high average but no more. Even his first year with the Yanks he batted .292. Granderson strikes out a ton and is hitting 30 points below his average. I have to agree with Steve. This is the team that the GM built. The pieces just don’t seem to fit together.

    7. Raf
      August 31st, 2012 | 12:18 am

      LMJ229 wrote:

      The pieces just don’t seem to fit together.

      And yet, they’re leading the East and have the 2nd best record in the AL. Last year, they wound up with the best record in the AL.

      I’m going to wait a while before I kick dirt on the Yankees.

      Joseph Maloney wrote:

      Girardi is a good manager

      Pretty mediocre. He’s not much different from your run of the mill ML Mgr. That said, I’m ok with him. He has his annoying tendencies, but what manager doesn’t?

    8. rankdog
      August 31st, 2012 | 5:00 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      I am a Girardi fan. As a person, he’s off the charts great. A special, special, dude. The kind of guy you want as your neighbor. The kind of man that you want your son to grow up to be…or the one you want your daughter to marry.
      As a manager, I wanted him to be more like Buck Showalter. But, he’s not Buck.
      That said, he’s not terrible and I think he does a fair job. If the Yankees blow this, it won’t be his fault. He just rode the horses that he was given to work with…
      It’s not his fault that he has a bunch of over-priced and easily broken down “superstars,” and a bunch of guys who cannot play anything else but homerun derby. Blame the GM for that.

      Who are the easily broken down superstars? ARod? out with a broken hand where he was hit by a pitch? Andy? Broken leg after being stuck by a ball? CC? his first season not pitching 250+ innings in a very long time. Mo? first serious injury of his career. Gardner? Is he a superstar? You have a small case with Tex who has trouble staying in the line up as of late.

      Sure blame the GM for having enough depth to keep the team with heads above water while they recoup from the injury bug.

    9. August 31st, 2012 | 7:57 am

      @ rankdog:
      IIRC, Tex, CC, Andy, Swisher and Mo have all lost time to injuries this season – along with A-Rod.

      Yes, A-Rod was Hank’s sign. But, note how the Red Sox unloaded Crawford and Beckett. You can move money. And, Cashman has never tried to move A-Rod. Blame Hank for signing A-Rod. Blame Cashman for keeping him.

    10. August 31st, 2012 | 8:03 am

      LMJ229 wrote:

      I wasn’t crazy about Girardi when the Yankees hired him and he did nothing to change my mind in his first year. But I have changed my mind since then. I think he has grown into a pretty good manager.

      The other thing to consider is today’s MGRs have so much “other” stuff in addition to the on the field decisions that they have to deal with…the DAILY pre- and post-game press conferences and other media resposibilities (like the weekly spots on YES and WFAN). Granted, they get paid for the weekly spots. But, see Bobby Valentine. One wrong move in those situations becomes a volcano. And, Joe does not embarrass himself or the team in these spots. Also, with the Yankees, Joe has to deal with other requests, like HOPE week, that MGRs never had to deal with in the past. And, he does all that without incident and still handles the team. Overall, Girardi does a pretty good job. The Yankees could do worse.

    11. August 31st, 2012 | 6:33 pm

      @ Raf:

      How is Girardi a mediocre manager? He has a World Chapionship ring, took the Yankees to a League Championship Series, won 89 games with the pitching challenged 2008 team, won manager of the year award with Florida, and is in first place with all te injuries this year. He can only manage the talent he is given.

    12. Raf
      August 31st, 2012 | 7:24 pm

      Joseph Maloney wrote:

      @ Raf:
      How is Girardi a mediocre manager? He has a World Chapionship ring, took the Yankees to a League Championship Series, won 89 games with the pitching challenged 2008 team, won manager of the year award with Florida, and is in first place with all te injuries this year. He can only manage the talent he is given.

      Girardi manages his team just like any other manager. He has his bullpen slots, he has his lineup slots, he doesn’t bring anything new or different to the table.

    13. September 1st, 2012 | 11:36 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Joseph Maloney wrote:@ Raf:
      How is Girardi a mediocre manager? He has a World Chapionship ring, took the Yankees to a League Championship Series, won 89 games with the pitching challenged 2008 team, won manager of the year award with Florida, and is in first place with all te injuries this year. He can only manage the talent he is given. Girardi manages his team just like any other manager. He has his bullpen slots, he has his lineup slots, he doesn’t bring anything new or different to the table.

      I don’t know what to make out of this response. The question is this, does Girardi get the most out of the talent he has. I would argue he does. On top of that, you don’t acknowledge how well Girardi deals with the off the field responsibilities of the modern day manager.

    14. Raf
      September 2nd, 2012 | 1:10 am

      @ Joseph Maloney:
      http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/

      Looking at the Yankees’ win totals, Girardi has had the players, like Torre did. The Torre Yankees were good for 90+ wins. Girardi’s Yankees are good for 90+ wins.

      The pitching wasn’t challenged in 2008, the offense was. Check the RS vs RA from 2007-09.

      Girardi isn’t the only manager who has press conferences after the game, he also isn’t the only modern day manager with responsibilities. There isn’t anything new from a managerial standpoint, be it offense, defense, pitching, tactical, whatever that he brings to the game.

      There is no “stamp” that he has with the team, that managers like, say, Scoscia or Maddon have with their teams (not saying they’re worse or better, just using them as comps).

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