• Phil Hughes – 2010 Vs. 2012 (To Date)

    Posted by on September 17th, 2012 · Comments (10)

    Look at Phil Hughes’ 2010 season stats compared to what he’s done on the season so far this year:

    Year ERA G GS IP H R HR BB SO BF ERA+ WHIP
    2010 4.19 31 29 176.1 162 83 25 58 146 730 103 1.248
    2012 3.96 29 29 175.0 178 88 33 40 148 740 106 1.246
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
    Generated 9/17/2012.

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    Could the numbers be any closer?

    Comments on Phil Hughes – 2010 Vs. 2012 (To Date)

    1. Evan3457
      September 17th, 2012 | 3:42 pm

      Considerably more HRs, Considerably fewer walks.

      The big difference? He’s not having the same 2nd half collapse that he did in 2010, primarily due to using the change more, and adding the slider in lieu of the cutter.

      2nd half:

      2010: 7-6 4.90 ERA, 75.1 IP, 71 H, 14 HR, 29 BB, 55 K, 6 QS in 13 GS
      2012: 6-5 3.46 ERA, 75.1 IP, 71 H, 14 HR, 17 BB, 56 K, 9 QS in 12 GS

    2. KPOcala
      September 17th, 2012 | 4:46 pm

      I’ll argue that, perhaps, Hughes is shaking the idea of blowing hitters away like he did in the minors, finally learning the “art” of pitching. I read an article recently that Hughes said that after that severe hamstring injury that he never fully recovered from it. And Texiera in the same article said that his quad injury took a few year to feel normal. I have a feeling that next year Hughes becomes the stud the he was expected to be.

    3. Corey
      September 17th, 2012 | 5:41 pm

      KPOcala wrote:

      Hughes becomes the stud the he was expected to be.

      That’s a bet that I would take.

    4. September 17th, 2012 | 5:52 pm

      KPOcala wrote:

      I have a feeling that next year Hughes becomes the stud the he was expected to be.

      I wouldn’t go THAT far out, but it seems fitting that out of the five starters the Yankees have touted out there the last few weeks, Hughes has seemingly done the best of them all. Considering his dreadful start to the season, I’m rooting for him to continue to do well.

      I don’t know what all that means going forward. I feel Hughes has finally got his head on straight (being committed to training, etc) and, as you said, KPO, is realizing he needs to continue to work on his craft, rather than believe that his God-given ability plus carrying a few extra pounds will make him a major-league capable pitcher.

      Next year will tell the tale, though it will also be his contract year. With results like this (or slightly better) next year, what would you offer?

    5. Raf
      September 17th, 2012 | 6:07 pm

      I’m not expecting Hughes to be a stud next season, but I would hope he turns out to be a solid mid rotation guy.

      It’s going to take a little more convincing for me to believe that he has turned the corner.

      All that said, I’d be surprised if he gets a large contract, I don’t see him getting more than someone like Jason Marquis.

    6. KPOcala
      September 18th, 2012 | 1:12 am

      A lot of you guys might be surprised how many pitchers don’t really develop until they hit 25-28. My hunch is based on the (possibility) idea that Hughes hamstring may finally heal by next year. The body develops physically and recovers from injury differently in everybody. Reggie Jackson, along with a lot of players had hammy problems for years. As an aside, one thing I do notice with Hughes is that when he’s not pitching well he seems to sway from side to side in his delivery. Of course he then has no control laterally. If he does have some lingering hamstring issues it would seem that he wouldn’t get that full over the top extension on his curve like he did before he got hurt. We’ll see, if you guys ever can get a wager going with someone based on a pitcher’s long term success, jump on it ;)

    7. KPOcala
      September 18th, 2012 | 2:40 am

      Off topic, but I see that everyone’s “super-star” ‘give the farm, do what it takes to trade for’, Justin Upton has a sterling WAR of 1.6, with a slash-line of .272/.348/.417. How in the hell is this guy a superstar in what should be in the prime of his career is beyond me. Love to here the “reasons”.

    8. Corey
      September 18th, 2012 | 11:55 am

      KPOcala wrote:

      ff topic, but I see that everyone’s “super-star” ‘give the farm, do what it takes to trade for’, Justin Upton has a sterling WAR of 1.6, with a slash-line of .272/.348/.417. How in the hell is this guy a superstar in what should be in the prime of his career is beyond me. Love to here the “reasons”.

      Devil is in the details. Sure his numbers don’t look great, but he has been hurt most of the year. (He hurt his hand in the beginning of the year and hasn’t been able to hit for power till basically last week).

      I’d give up the farm for him. (not like there’s much there of worth anyway).

    9. LMJ229
      September 18th, 2012 | 10:49 pm

      Brent wrote:

      Next year will tell the tale, though it will also be his contract year. With results like this (or slightly better) next year, what would you offer?

      Now that is the real question. It will be interesting to see how it plays out if Hughes has another solid year. And let’s not forget, the Yankees will be hampered by that $189M salary cap.

    10. September 19th, 2012 | 6:50 am

      Prediction: In order to try and control costs, Cashman will sign Hughes to a multi-year contract after this season. And, once the ink is dry on that one, Hughes will revert back to being a lazy ballplayer and get fat again.

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