• Yankees: In Geritol Pitchers, We Trust

    Posted by on November 11th, 2012 · Comments (7)

    Via Jon Heyman -

    The Yankees have faith they can make deals with pitchers Mariano Rivera, Hiroki Kuroda and Andy Pettitte — surely more faith than they can do a deal with Rafael Soriano at the moment.

    The Yankees expect to try to work something out with Rivera in the coming week, especially now that Soriano has rejected the $13.3-million qualifying offer. The club’s hope is to get Rivera done at a bit of a pay cut from his $15-million 2012 salary, as he is 43 and coming back from a knee injury.

    The Yankees seem to have a fair amount of hope, too, that Kuroda will stay with them on a one-year deal, especially if he desides to stay in the states. The team sees Japan as its major competition, not the Red Sox or even nouveau riche Dodgers, who are among the interested teams in the majors. The Yankees would enhance the $13.3-million offer Kuroda rejected a bit if it meant keeping Kuroda, who is said to have enjoyed his year with the Yankees and is very willing to do a one-year deal.

    Word is, Kuroda has promised to finish his terrific career with a final year back in Japan, but the Yankees believe and hope the chances are that he delays that plan a year to give them another fine season in the Bronx.

    Pettitte hasn’t “officially” told the Yankees he’s returning, but they seem to believe he will. He’ll get a raise from the $2.5 million he took to come out of retirement last year should he pitch, as they expect.

    As for Soriano, the Yankees are amenable to talking about a two-year deal with the man who stepped in for Rivera and did a terrific job in 2012. However, they don’t seem to feel the need to present one at the moment, not after Soriano opted out, then joined the other seven star players who turned down qualifying offers.

    For the record, Kuroda will be 38, Pettitte will be 41, and, Rivera will be 43-years old, next season.

    That’s a whole ‘lotta old to be counting on for some key spots in your pitching staff. Or, in other words: This is stupid.

    Comments on Yankees: In Geritol Pitchers, We Trust

    1. lardin
      November 11th, 2012 | 11:47 am

      Just out of curiosity which pitchers should the Yankees target? Which free agents should they sign and who should trade for? Ifnyounare advocating trades which players are you giving up?

    2. November 11th, 2012 | 12:28 pm

      lardin wrote:

      Just out of curiosity which pitchers should the Yankees target? Which free agents should they sign and who should trade for? Ifnyounare advocating trades which players are you giving up?

      The Yankees need to go after Mo, Andy and Kuroda because they have these holes. Would I address these holes any differently? Yes. But, that would require a time machine. And, I don’t have one of those…

      Here’s the issue: Because of Cashman & Co.’s inability to have arms in the pipeline, ready to replace aging and/or leaving pitchers, they’ve painted themselves into this corner.

      To fix this, you would have to go back over the last 5-7 years and do a better job than Cashman and his helpers and make better draft picks, international signings, smarter trades, and better decisions overall and then you would have the pitchers that you need without having to pay big bucks, sign free agents, or depend on pitchers who are closer to 40 than 30.

      This is Cashman’s mess. Don’t turn to me to try and fix it for him.

    3. Evan3457
      November 11th, 2012 | 1:37 pm

      As a general rule, you’re definitely right.

      But in this case:

      1) The 3 pitchers in question have shown they can thrive in New York.
      2) The 3 pitchers in question have shown they can be effective recently, all in the last year. Mo is actually the biggest question mark.
      3) The 3 pitchers in question all want to play for the Yankees.

      I think, in balancing the risks, it’s better to go with these three, especially when one considers the price, in $$$$/years or prospects, in acquiring younger pitching via free agency or trade. It’s not my favorite solution, which would’ve been to have Banuelos ready to step in this year to join Hughes and Pineda with CC in a younger rotation, but the team has to deal with what is.

    4. Raf
      November 11th, 2012 | 2:32 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Here’s the issue: Because of Cashman & Co.’s inability to have arms in the pipeline, ready to replace aging and/or leaving pitchers, they’ve painted themselves into this corner.

      Nova and Phelps don’t count? Garcia can be brought back on another deal. There are also NRI’s and non-tenders that can be invited to camp for a look. Trades can be made.

      The Yankees have hardly painted themselves into a corner, and certainly not 3 months before pitchers and catchers.

    5. November 11th, 2012 | 6:27 pm

      @ Raf:
      Did you see Nova pitch last season?

    6. #15
      November 12th, 2012 | 8:22 am

      @ Raf:
      We don’t need or want Freddie back. Last year was one year too many.

    7. Raf
      November 13th, 2012 | 1:15 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      @ Raf:
      Did you see Nova pitch last season?

      Yes I did. I also saw him pitch the season before. All that said, it doesn’t necessarily mean that he cannot improve.

      #15 wrote:

      @ Raf:
      We don’t need or want Freddie back. Last year was one year too many.

      Point is, there’s always pitching available. The signings of Garcia and Colon was mocked 2 offseasons ago, and those deals turned out fine. And in Garcia’s case, were he to be re-signed, it would probably be for depth.

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