• Kuroda Re-Signs With Yankees

    Posted by on November 21st, 2012 · Comments (12)

    One year at fifteen mill. So much for that dung about wanting to pitch on the west coast…

    Note that he will be 38 next year and had an Opponents Faced allowed BA/OBA/SLG line of .303/.353/.510 (in 158 PA) during the last month of this past season.

    Did he run out of gas this year? Or, is age catching up? We’ll see in 2013.

    Comments on Kuroda Re-Signs With Yankees

    1. Scout
      November 21st, 2012 | 9:22 am

      Maybe he ran out of gas, but it sure didn’t hurt him in the postseason. This move falls in the category of “must-do, no-brainer.”

    2. November 21st, 2012 | 9:41 am

      I just hope it’s not a case where they trying to squeeze more juice from an orange that’s already been juiced, quite a bit.

      At some point, relying on these pitchers who are close to 40, is going to haunt them.

      I know what Cashman is thinking: If Kuroda and Pettitte breakdown, we can fill the gap/time with someone from AAA until they come back. And, that’s OK when you only have one old pitcher. But, CC started to break down last year, Pettitte broke down, Nova came back down to earth and Hughes is hard to count on (based on past experience when you counted on him to come into came in shape). David Phelps only goes so far in terms of being a back-up. I would still like to see the Yankees get another starter, closer to 30 than 40, who can depended on…but, I suspect we’ll be seeing more of the Freddy Garcia types…

    3. Garcia
      November 21st, 2012 | 12:18 pm

      @ Steve L.:
      And what would you have said if the Yanks hadn’t resigned him?

      He has averaged 212 IP/year. He can fall off the cliff just like any 30 years young pitcher can, I don’t see this being as straightforward as you make it sound — just get younger. I’d love for the Yanks to be a team full of 27 years young all-stars.

      Plus, the Yanks do have Pineda coming back…he should be able to take Nova’s spot in the rotation, then you have Hughes as your number 5. I don’t see the pitching as the Yankees most glaring weakness, you may think otherwise.

      It’s crazy to think, but the Yanks hitting needs to be revamped dramatically. The first thing I’d do is look to see how I can make ARod the permanent #6 hitter, with Tex as #5, then try and figure out what needs to be done between 1 – 5 either through a trade, free agency, etc. I don’t see how this team can be successful with ARod batting anywhere above a 6, and Tex batting any higher than 5.

      I really wish Cash can come up with something clever, but I don’t have much faith in the man.

    4. November 21st, 2012 | 12:26 pm

      Garcia wrote:

      And what would you have said if the Yanks hadn’t resigned him?

      Depends on what the corresponding move to address his spot in the rotation was..

      Pineda? Seriously? Haven’t we already been told not to count on him for 2013?

    5. November 21st, 2012 | 12:36 pm

      As far as the Yankees hitting, they still need a RF and a C too.

      I figure that he’ll bring Ichiro back, knowing Cashman.

      So, then, between Jeter, Ichiro, Gardner and the catcher, your only spots open in the order will be #3 through #7.

      Figure the DH to take #7. And, that leaves Granderson, Cano, A-Rod and Tex in the #3 through #6 slots. That said, I think you see the Yankees 2013 line-up looking like this:

      1. Jeter
      2. Ichiro
      3. Cano
      4. Tex
      5. A-Rod
      6. Granderson
      7. DH
      8. Catcher
      9. Gardner

      Is that impressive? I don’t think so…esp. considering jeter’s injury and the age on Ichiro (and Jeter too). And, the lack of BA from Tex and lack of power from A-Rod, and the lack of BA from Granderson means Cano gets zero pitches to hit and will be chasing all season.

    6. McMillan
      November 21st, 2012 | 2:31 pm

      Garcia wrote:

      @ Steve L.:
      Plus, the Yanks do have Pineda coming back…he should be able to take Nova’s spot in the rotation, then you have Hughes as your number 5. I don’t see the pitching as the Yankees most glaring weakness…
      It’s crazy to think, but the Yanks hitting needs to be revamped dramatically.

      Pineda has pitched only one year, and the second half of his rookie season was less than remarkable. He has not pitched in N.Y., much less a pennant race in N.Y., and he is returning from a substantial shoulder injury. And before he was injured, he arrived at spring training approx. 30 lbs. overweight and with his fastball well-below 97 m.p.h. And he has had off-the-field issues. Therefore, its probably a bit premature to have him pitching in the starting rotation, much less supplanting Nova. As Sabathia and Kuroda can not reasonably be expected to improve much over their 2012 performances, Hughes and Nova must both improve, and become more consistent, and the team will have to find innings in the no. 5 spot, if it is to see 95 wins in 2013.

    7. MJ Recanati
      November 21st, 2012 | 2:54 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      As Sabathia and Kuroda can not reasonably be expected to improve much over their 2012 performances, Hughes and Nova must both improve, and become more consistent, and the team will have to find innings in the no. 5 spot, if it is to see 95 wins in 2013.

      That actually makes no sense. If Sabathia and Kuroda do not improve, and Hughes and Nova pitch exactly the same as last year, and the Yankees get league-average output from their #5 starter that in and of itself will be a perfectly reasonable recipe for 95 wins (assuming the offense can replicate last year’s output (where Granderson gets a little better and Jeter gets a little worse)).

    8. #15
      November 21st, 2012 | 3:48 pm

      Kuroda showed me enough to gladly welcome him back.

    9. Evan3457
      November 21st, 2012 | 9:41 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      Garcia wrote:
      @ Steve L.:
      Plus, the Yanks do have Pineda coming back…he should be able to take Nova’s spot in the rotation, then you have Hughes as your number 5. I don’t see the pitching as the Yankees most glaring weakness…
      It’s crazy to think, but the Yanks hitting needs to be revamped dramatically.
      Pineda has pitched only one year, and the second half of his rookie season was less than remarkable. He has not pitched in N.Y., much less a pennant race in N.Y., and he is returning from a substantial shoulder injury. And before he was injured, he arrived at spring training approx. 30 lbs. overweight and with his fastball well-below 97 m.p.h. And he has had off-the-field issues. Therefore, its probably a bit premature to have him pitching in the starting rotation, much less supplanting Nova. As Sabathia and Kuroda can not reasonably be expected to improve much over their 2012 performances, Hughes and Nova must both improve, and become more consistent, and the team will have to find innings in the no. 5 spot, if it is to see 95 wins in 2013.

      Actually, Sabathia stands a better than 50/50 shot of improving this year vs. last year, assuming the elbow spur surgery worked.

    10. LMJ229
      November 24th, 2012 | 6:56 pm

      This year’s team will look much like last year’s team with a few minor exceptions. Again our success will depend on how well our aging players will hold up physically and to what level their skills might diminish. Its the same old story.

      The real test will come in 2014 when we can potentially lose our closer, 3/5 of our starting rotation (Kuroda, Petitte, Hughes) and at least 3/8 of our everyday fielders (Jeter, Cano, Granderson). That’s alot of very big holes to fill.

    11. McMillan
      November 24th, 2012 | 9:28 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      McMillan wrote:
      As Sabathia and Kuroda can not reasonably be expected to improve much over their 2012 performances, Hughes and Nova must both improve, and become more consistent, and the team will have to find innings in the no. 5 spot, if it is to see 95 wins in 2013.
      That actually makes no sense. If Sabathia and Kuroda do not improve, and Hughes and Nova pitch exactly the same as last year, and the Yankees get league-average output from their #5 starter that in and of itself will be a perfectly reasonable recipe for 95 wins (assuming the offense can replicate last year’s output (where Granderson gets a little better and Jeter gets a little worse)).

      Assuming the offense can replicate last year’s output: the team lost a switch-hitting rightfielder and a .272 B.A. with 24 HRs. and 93 R.B.I.s from the middle of its lineup; the product of the best trade the team has made in the last 15 yrs. The third baseman will be 38 yrs. old; the shortstop 39 yrs. old; and the left-handed D.H. 40 yrs. old. Will the 2012 versions of Sabathia, Kuroda, Hughes, and Nova be enough to get the team to 95 wins in 2013? Can a 38 yr.-old Kuroda repeat a 16-win, 3.32 E.R.A season in 2013?

      The rotation will have Rivera behind it at the age of 44 – how much better can he be expected to perform than 2 -1 with a 2.26 E.R.A. and 42 saves at that age and coming back from an injury? The team will probably have to see an improvement from 2 of Sabathia, Hughes, or Nova if it is to see 95 wins and another sweep at the hands of Detroit in 2013 as well.

    12. McMillan
      November 24th, 2012 | 9:33 pm

      I think Sabathia will improve, as will either Hughes or Nova. Unfortunately, I believe that might not be enough to make the postseason next year.
      @ Evan3457:

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