• Dodgers To Sign Zack Greinke

    Posted by on December 9th, 2012 · Comments (24)

    Anyone else thinking  that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees?

    Comments on Dodgers To Sign Zack Greinke

    1. Evan3457
      December 9th, 2012 | 11:48 am

      Probably.

      But that will change if they don’t win it all THIS SEASON.

      And then he’ll be changed.

      Well, maybe after 2014, but not later than that, if he can’t win it all.

    2. Corey
      December 9th, 2012 | 12:41 pm

      Gotta think that this is a good thing in terms of keeping Cano’s contract down. No way LA gives Cano offers a 20+ mil long tern offer now.

    3. KPOcala
      December 9th, 2012 | 1:08 pm

      Funny, but has anyone heard the term “obscene used in describing all the money the Dodgers are spending? You know, the term that was always pinned on the Yanks. Thought so……….

    4. McMillan
      December 9th, 2012 | 2:55 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Probably.

      Girardi would certainly give the Dodgers gig serious consideration. In the middle of the December preceding the walk year of his contract, he has no set starting catcher, third baseman, right-fielder, or left-handed D.H. for a team that hit .188 in a 4-game series loss in the A.L.C.S. And he does not have the relationship with the Steinbrenner family the team’s G.M. or president have. “Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu to you ladies of Spain…”
      Girardi will be the scapegoat in 2013 that Rodriguez was in 2012.

    5. EHawk
      December 9th, 2012 | 3:09 pm

      I read that the Dodgers new TV deal will be worth about 250 million a year!!! That’s just what they are making from the TV deal…so basically they can use that money to pay for their roster every year for the next 20 years! All the other money they make on ticket sales, food and beverages sales, merchandise, etc is all gravy! I wonder how much the Yanks are making a season through YES….its gotta be above that since they own the station….the Dodgers are getting paid by Fox!

    6. Evan3457
      December 9th, 2012 | 4:22 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      Probably.
      Girardi would certainly give the Dodgers gig serious consideration. In the middle of the December preceding the walk year of his contract, he has no set starting catcher, third baseman, right-fielder, or left-handed D.H. for a team that hit .188 in a 4-game series loss in the A.L.C.S. And he does not have the relationship with the Steinbrenner family the team’s G.M. or president have. “Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu to you ladies of Spain…”
      Girardi will be the scapegoat in 2013 that Rodriguez was in 2012.

      1) I wasn’t comparing the Dodgers’ managing job to the Yankees’ managing job.
      2) It’s the middle of December. End of sentence.
      3) Does that mean the Yanks make the playoffs again, and maybe win a round of playoffs? There are worse things in life.

    7. McMillan
      December 9th, 2012 | 4:43 pm

      “Anyone else thinking that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees?”
      Evan3457 wrote:

      Probably.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      1) I wasn’t comparing the Dodgers’ managing job to the Yankees’ managing job.

      It certainly seems like a comparison of the Dodgers’ managing gig to the Yankees’ managing gig…
      Evan3457 wrote:

      It’s the middle of December. End of sentence.

      It’s the middle of December. End of sentence.
      Evan3457 wrote:

      Does that mean the Yanks make the playoffs again, and maybe win a round of playoffs? There are worse things in life.

      And if the team does not make the playoffs (where “anything can happen”)? Or does dot win a round of playoffs? Or maybe wins 1 round of playoffs? There are worse things in life? Tell that to the Girardi Family in Nov., 2013. “Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu to you ladies of Spain…”

    8. Raf
      December 9th, 2012 | 5:00 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      1) I wasn’t comparing the Dodgers’ managing job to the Yankees’ managing job.
      2) It’s the middle of December. End of sentence.
      3) Does that mean the Yanks make the playoffs again, and maybe win a round of playoffs? There are worse things in life.

      Your logic and reason have no place here! Be gone! :P

    9. Raf
      December 9th, 2012 | 5:07 pm

      KPOcala wrote:

      Funny, but has anyone heard the term “obscene used in describing all the money the Dodgers are spending?

      Of course not… lol.

    10. McMillan
      December 9th, 2012 | 5:23 pm

      I shall not attempt to define a payroll I understand to be embraced within the shorthand description of “obscene,” and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the payroll of the Los Angeles Dodgers for the 2013 season is that.

    11. McMillan
      December 9th, 2012 | 5:51 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Your logic and reason have no place here! Be gone!

      Headline: “Your logic and reason have no place here! Be gone!” – The N.Y. Yankees to manager Joe Girardi at the expiration of his contract in 2013, and after the team failed to win its one-game A.L. wildcard playoff game… In related news… Yankee G.M. Brian Cashman has been offered a contract extension by the team…

    12. Evan3457
      December 9th, 2012 | 10:27 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      “Anyone else thinking that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees?”
      Evan3457 wrote:
      Probably.
      Evan3457 wrote:
      1) I wasn’t comparing the Dodgers’ managing job to the Yankees’ managing job.
      It certainly seems like a comparison of the Dodgers’ managing gig to the Yankees’ managing gig…

      Ummm, no. I meant that Mattingly was probably happy the Dodgers are spending a lot of money to acquire big name players, and he probably doesn’t mind the extra pressure that comes with that, but he might still have been happier to get the Yankees job because of his history with the team, I really don’t know one way or the other. And Mattingly was going through a divorce at the time, so the question is moot.

      Evan3457 wrote:
      It’s the middle of December. End of sentence.

      Evan3457 wrote:
      Does that mean the Yanks make the playoffs again, and maybe win a round of playoffs? There are worse things in life.
      And if the team does not make the playoffs (where “anything can happen”)? Or does dot win a round of playoffs? Or maybe wins 1 round of playoffs?

      It was you, not me, who said the Yanks are in for a similar level of disappointment this year than last. I really have no idea what will happen to the Yanks this year, largely because the team is incomplete (literally) at this time.

      There are worse things in life? Tell that to the Girardi Family in Nov., 2013. “Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu to you ladies of Spain…”

      Assumption on your part. May or may not be reality-based.

    13. Evan3457
      December 9th, 2012 | 10:30 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      I shall not attempt to define a payroll I understand to be embraced within the shorthand description of “obscene,” and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the payroll of the Los Angeles Dodgers for the 2013 season is that.

      So the Yanks should be spending more than the Dodgers to try to guarantee the playoffs again? Or is that even more obscene, and you’d be just as happy not to make the playoffs. Or are you willing to sit back and see what happens as Cashman tries to fill in the holes in the roster at less than top of the market prices, without pre-judging until all is done?

      Make a choice.

    14. Evan3457
      December 9th, 2012 | 10:30 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      Raf wrote:
      Your logic and reason have no place here! Be gone!
      Headline: “Your logic and reason have no place here! Be gone!” – The N.Y. Yankees to manager Joe Girardi at the expiration of his contract in 2013, and after the team failed to win its one-game A.L. wildcard playoff game… In related news… Yankee G.M. Brian Cashman has been offered a contract extension by the team…

      Wow. Just…wow.

    15. Greg H.
      December 10th, 2012 | 7:14 am

      Article on Yahoo called the Dodgers’ salary “mind boggling,” but it’s LA. I can’t figure out, given the Yanks success in NY, why it took LA that long to take a page from NY’s book.

    16. McMillan
      December 10th, 2012 | 11:44 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      “Anyone else thinking that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig AND NOT THE ONE WITH THE YANKEES?”

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Probably.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      It certainly seems like a comparison of the Dodgers’ managing gig to the Yankees’ managing gig…

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Ummm, no. I MEANT that Mattingly was probably happy the Dodgers are spending a lot of money to acquire big name players, and he probably doesn’t mind the extra pressure that comes with that, but he might still have been happier to get the Yankees job because of his history with the team, I really don’t know one way or the other.

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comparison

    17. McMillan
      December 10th, 2012 | 1:00 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Assumption on your part.

      Of course its an assumption.
      “Anyone else thinking (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thinking) that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees? (i.e. Can one assume (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assumption) that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees?)
      Evan3457 wrote:

      Probably.

      McMillan wrote:

      Girardi would certainly give the Dodgers gig serious consideration.

      Can one assume (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assumption) that Joe Girardi, right now, is pretty happy that he has Yankees manager gig and would not be “happier” if he had the one with the Dodgers?
      Evan3457 wrote:

      I wasn’t comparing the Dodgers’ managing job to the Yankees’ managing job.

      McMillan wrote:

      It certainly seems like a comparison of the Dodgers’ managing gig to the Yankees’ managing gig…

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Ummm, no. I meant that Mattingly was probably happy the Dodgers are spending a lot of money to acquire big name players, and he probably doesn’t mind the extra pressure that comes with that, but he might still have been HAPPIER to get the Yankees job because of his history with the team, I really don’t know one way or the other.

      Happier: comparative of hap·py; Adjective. Com·par·a·tive /kəmˈparəˌtiv/; Adjective; Perceptible by comparison.
      McMillan wrote:

      I shall not attempt to define a payroll I understand to be embraced within the shorthand description of “obscene,” and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the payroll of the Los Angeles Dodgers for the 2013 season is that.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      So the Yanks should be spending more than the Dodgers to try to guarantee the playoffs again? Or is that even more obscene, and you’d be just as happy not to make the playoffs. Or are you willing to sit back and see what happens as Cashman tries to fill in the holes in the roster at less than top of the market prices, without pre-judging until all is done?
      Make a choice.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it
      Wow. Just…wow.

    18. Evan3457
      December 10th, 2012 | 4:29 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      “Anyone else thinking that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig AND NOT THE ONE WITH THE YANKEES?”
      Evan3457 wrote:
      Probably.
      Evan3457 wrote:
      It certainly seems like a comparison of the Dodgers’ managing gig to the Yankees’ managing gig…
      Evan3457 wrote:
      Ummm, no. I MEANT that Mattingly was probably happy the Dodgers are spending a lot of money to acquire big name players, and he probably doesn’t mind the extra pressure that comes with that, but he might still have been happier to get the Yankees job because of his history with the team, I really don’t know one way or the other.
      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comparison

      “I really don’t know one way or the other.”
      Thanks.

    19. Raf
      December 10th, 2012 | 7:35 pm

      Obvious troll is obvious :D

    20. Evan3457
      December 10th, 2012 | 11:18 pm

      McMillan wrote:
      Ummm, no. I MEANT that Mattingly was probably happy the Dodgers are spending a lot of money to acquire big name players, and he probably doesn’t mind the extra pressure that comes with that, but he might still have been happier to get the Yankees job because of his history with the team, I really don’t know one way or the other.
      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comparison

      Look, Mac, you can quote Merriam Webster like you think you have a point all you want, but all I was doing was trying to read Mattingly’s mind which is near impossible anyway.

      I wasn’t comparing the Yankee and Dodger manager jobs. No matter what you think you have.

    21. Evan3457
      December 10th, 2012 | 11:25 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      Assumption on your part.
      Of course its an assumption.
      “Anyone else thinking (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thinking) that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees? (i.e. Can one assume (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assumption) that Don Mattingly, right now, is pretty happy that he got the Dodgers manager gig and not the one with the Yankees?)

      Actually, I don’t know, but most people are happier in the job they have rather than a speculative job they didn’t have. And that’s without reference to the relative merits of the two jobs. And that assumes that outsiders can correctly judge those merits from afar.
      Evan3457 wrote:

      McMillan wrote:

      Girardi would certainly give the Dodgers gig serious consideration.
      Can one assume (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assumption) that Joe Girardi, right now, is pretty happy that he has Yankees manager gig and would not be “happier” if he had the one with the Dodgers?

      I would think that Girardi is happier with the job he currently has rather than a speculative job with another team he might never have been offered. I know I would be. But again, I really don’t know.

      And, amazingly enough, neither do you.

      Evan3457 wrote:
      I wasn’t comparing the Dodgers’ managing job to the Yankees’ managing job.
      McMillan wrote:
      It certainly seems like a comparison of the Dodgers’ managing gig to the Yankees’ managing gig…
      Evan3457 wrote:
      Ummm, no. I meant that Mattingly was probably happy the Dodgers are spending a lot of money to acquire big name players, and he probably doesn’t mind the extra pressure that comes with that, but he might still have been HAPPIER to get the Yankees job because of his history with the team, I really don’t know one way or the other.
      Happier: comparative of hap·py; Adjective. Com·par·a·tive /kəmˈparəˌtiv/; Adjective; Perceptible by comparison.

      Uh, no, defining happy or happier as comparative doesn’t mean I was comparing the relative merits of the two jobs. It means I was speculating as to the state of mind of whether a man I don’t know is happier in the job he has than he would have been in a job he was never offered.

      But please continue to use definitions in lieu of thinking as you see fit. It’s your reply, after all.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it
      Wow. Just…wow.

      Yep, that’s about right. Your opinion is knowledge. You stick to that story.

    22. Evan3457
      December 10th, 2012 | 11:27 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Obvious troll is obvious

      Yeah.

    23. MJ Recanati
      December 11th, 2012 | 12:14 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Obvious troll is obvious

      I’ve been saying that for weeks now!

    24. McMillan
      December 12th, 2012 | 3:36 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Look, Mac, you can quote Merriam Webster like you think you have a point all you want, but all I was doing was trying to read Mattingly’s mind which is near impossible anyway.
      I wasn’t comparing the Yankee and Dodger manager jobs. No matter what you think you have… Yep, that’s about right. Your opinion is knowledge. You stick to that story.

      I was comparing the Yankee and Dodger manager jobs, which I thought was the point of the exercise. I was not interested in trying to read either Girardi’s mind or Mattingly’s mind, which is “near impossible anyway” as you indicated. And I don’t believe I represented my opinion as knowledge at any time, and would simply reference the definition of the two terms and invite a reconciliation of such with what was written.
      Evan3457 wrote:

      So the Yanks should be spending more than the Dodgers to try to guarantee the playoffs again? Or is that even more obscene, and you’d be just as happy not to make the playoffs. Or are you willing to sit back and see what happens as Cashman tries to fill in the holes in the roster at less than top of the market prices, without pre-judging until all is done?
      Make a choice.

      I simply replied in jest to a previous post about the “obscenity” of the Dodgers’ spending this offseason with a famous quote. And I was not pre-judging Cashman as he tries to fill in the holes as much as I was holding Cashman responsible for the existence of the holes to begin with. He got lucky with Youkilis’ availability and signing (see definition of opinion) so as to replace an injured 38-yr. old third baseman with what I believe will be a productive bat that will deliver big hits for this lineup in the postseason, if the team gets there.
      Evan3457 wrote:

      Obvious troll is obvious

      “Girardi would certainly give the Dodgers gig serious consideration.” Mattingly might be in a better position than Girardi “all other things being equal.”

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