• Yankees 2013 Rotation Quiz

    Posted by on December 12th, 2012 · Comments (9)

    Which of these pitchers will have 20+ starts for the Yankees next season? And, which of them will fail to make at least 15 starts for the Yankees next season?

    Andy Pettitte
    Phil Hughes
    Ivan Nova
    David Phelps

    Me? It would not shock me if Phelps ended up with more starts than anyone else in this group. Heck, it wouldn’t shock me if Vidal Nuno made more starts for the Yankees in 2013 than Ivan Nova. But, seriously, Pettitte’s age and Hughes’ past conditioning concerns have to be huge red flags in the Yankees rotation this year, no?

    Comments on Yankees 2013 Rotation Quiz

    1. Corey
      December 12th, 2012 | 6:57 pm

      I’m more worried about CC going in to the season than anything. Hopefully the surgery cleared everything up. Without him, this team is in trouble.

    2. Ricketson
      December 12th, 2012 | 9:06 pm

      I’m pretty comfortable with putting Hughes and Nova down for 20+ starts each…

    3. Evan3457
      December 12th, 2012 | 10:51 pm

      I’m not that worried about Hughes. An arm injury? Always possible, I guess.
      But Hughes just made it through a whole season. He did get hurt again in the ALCS. But you’re not asking about 30 starts; you’re asking about 20. He’ll make 20.

      Nova might not make 20 unless he pitches a lot better than he did last year. Pettitte will make 20 starts. Maybe not 25 or 30, but he’ll make 20.

      Phelps’ 20 depends on the other three. If they don’t, he does.

    4. Garcia
      December 13th, 2012 | 2:24 am

      Man, you really hate Hughes. He’s just a #3/#4 starter, why all the hate for Hughes?

      He didn’t turn out to be the greatest pitcher that ever lived, at least based on the initial hype, but so what? He’s more than living up to his end of the deal. He was a key arm in the bullpen in 2009, he pitched above average in 2010, badly (and injured) in 2011, and right around league average last year (after an awful, awful start, and really good in June, July, and August).

      I don’t get why you have a laser beam pointed at the guy. He’s not the #1/#2 starter on your staff…maybe a #3, but really more like a #4. I’ll bet he gives the Yanks 25+ starts next year.

    5. December 13th, 2012 | 7:53 am

      Hughes is soft, immature and has a false sense of entitlement. As such, his production has not matched his talent. Granted, there’s still time for him to turn it around – see Curt Schilling who was the same way as a young pitcher until Roger Clemens told him, one day, that he was wasting his time and everyone else’s, just going about it half-assed.

      My advice to Hughes would be this: Be more like Pettitte and less like Joba. Don’t let the hype fool you into thinking you can just show up and be a star. Put in the work. Keep yourself in shape. Be a baseball player and less concerned with being a social media star. Your failed blog attempts and current twitter pic collections are not as important and you showing up each season in condition and ready to tap into your talent for a full season with success.

      Nothing worse than seeing someone jake it, with a swelled head, in baseball. That’s why I dislike Hughes.

    6. December 13th, 2012 | 10:20 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Be a baseball player and less concerned with being a social media star. Your failed blog attempts and current twitter pic collections are not as important and you showing up each season in condition and ready to tap into your talent for a full season with success.

      Man, you must greatly dislike a good number of people in their mid-20s. Many people around my age do the same things (though I refuse to get Instagram) and unless you think many people my age are “soft, immature and (have) a false sense of entitlement”, I don’t care what he does on Twitter or wherever else. Results are what matters and Hughes seemed to turn a corner, much like Garcia said.

      That just might be a generational gap though. There have been plenty of blowhards who have played before Hughes and after Hughes who have done things similarly (Harper’s attitude maybe being an example). Yes, Hughes was indeed stupid for not conditioning as well as he should have two years back, but as Garcia said, this is the first full regular season he has pitched without injury. I think we can agree that we’re waiting and seeing if this commitment continues and if he turned the corner. I think it will.

      Do you think Joba’s arm concerns are because Joba “bought into the hype” or just poor mechanics or something else? What do you think Joba should have done differently (besides not jump on a trampoline)? Also, Pettitte wasn’t nearly as hyped as Joba/Hughes was in the media, though the media was a heck of a lot different in the early 90s than now. Whenever everything you say and do is dissected to the point of ridiculousness. I can’t help but think that Pettitte and others would be handled a bit differently in the media if they came up to the Yankees now versus the early 90s.

    7. December 13th, 2012 | 10:55 am

      @ Brent:
      There was zero hype around Pettitte when he came up. He was just another guy, like Sterling Hitchcock, trying to stick in the majors. Also, Pettitte was a draft and follow. He wasn’t some #1 pick, savoir of he franchise, prospect.

      And, IMHO, if a 20-year old is playing around with Twitter too much, so much that it impacts their performance at their job, then the shareholders or stakeholders of that company have a right to question if the 20-year old should be playing around with Twitter so much.

    8. December 13th, 2012 | 1:10 pm

      @ Steve L.:

      But who’s fault is that regarding the hype? Certainly not Hughes. I just think Pettitte and others would be viewed differently in today’s media than in the early 90s. The media seems to turn out more absolute statements like the one you mentioned now and in more forms with Twitter, blogs like yours, and other sources.

      What is “too much”? Hughes’ biggest issue was with lack of conditioning. Unless you are on Twitter at an absurd level (4-5 hours+), I don’t see how his Twitter usage and the like interferes with his conditioning or lack thereof. Didn’t Hughes pick up his Twitter use last year anyway, when he actually finished a season?

    9. Raf
      December 13th, 2012 | 6:18 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      And, IMHO, if a 20-year old is playing around with Twitter too much, so much that it impacts their performance at their job, then the shareholders or stakeholders of that company have a right to question if the 20-year old should be playing around with Twitter so much.

      Honestly, tweeting really doesn’t take that much of an effort to do. Especially in the context of a ballplayer in the offseason. You can’t spend 24 hours a day training.

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