• O.K., I’ll Say It…

    Posted by on January 12th, 2013 · Comments (20)

    Your starting shortstop will be 39-years old three months into the season and he’s coming off surgery for a fractured ankle.

    Seriously, if his name was anything else but Derek Jeter, how would you feel about that?

    Unrelated, a fun list -

    Rk Yrs From To Age
    1 Derek Jeter 14 1996 2012 22-38 Ind. Seasons
    2 Luke Appling 11 1933 1949 26-42 Ind. Seasons
    3 Joe Cronin 11 1929 1941 22-34 Ind. Seasons
    4 Cal Ripken 10 1983 1996 22-35 Ind. Seasons
    5 Miguel Tejada 9 2000 2009 26-35 Ind. Seasons
    6 Pee Wee Reese 9 1946 1955 27-36 Ind. Seasons
    7 Honus Wagner 9 1904 1915 30-41 Ind. Seasons
    8 Jim Fregosi 8 1963 1970 21-28 Ind. Seasons
    9 Vern Stephens 8 1942 1950 21-29 Ind. Seasons
    10 Lou Boudreau 8 1940 1948 22-30 Ind. Seasons
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    Generated 1/12/2013.

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    Comments on O.K., I’ll Say It…

    1. Garcia
      January 12th, 2013 | 3:52 pm

      Agreed, it’s a huge risk. I don’t think there’s an easy answer here, unfortunately.

    2. January 12th, 2013 | 8:10 pm

      The sad thing is, there’s no fallback. There’s no one in the pipeline at SS that’s worth a damn, as far as I know.

    3. Raf
      January 12th, 2013 | 8:36 pm

      If Jeter can’t handle short, the organization will find someone that can. It may be someone from within, it may be someone signed, or may be someone traded. The Yankees haven’t announced their 2013 NRI’s; it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that a starting shortstop can be found there.

    4. hallofamer2000
      January 13th, 2013 | 12:54 am

      @ Steve L.:

      I mean, besides Nunez and Nix, maybe Jose Pirela?

    5. January 13th, 2013 | 1:15 am

      Does it matter? At this point to use one of the most overused phrases of the day, “we’re all in”. The ace closer spent almost all of last season on the DL and he’s 43! The right fielder is 39, Andy is 41 and spent most of last year on the DL. There is no solid plan for catcher, the utility infielder (Nunez) can’t field, AROD is the most expensive ball and chain in history, and the GM doesn’t know baseball talent (and those aren’t my words those are his). I firmly believe the ownership is looking to get out , so a 39 year old shortstop with a bad ankle fits right in. What the team does have is some bullpen talent (other than Mariano), and upper tier starting pitching. That pitching will have to carry the Yanks, it’s really the only on the field asset left. We may not be over the cliff, but we are sure close to the edge.

    6. KPOcala
      January 13th, 2013 | 2:06 am

      Some of you guys may not remember that we didn’t even have a “decent” SS for more or less 15 years. Good ones that can hit, well, we’ve been spoiled…

    7. Scout
      January 13th, 2013 | 9:19 am

      Jeter had no range before he hurt is ankle, so I doubt he’ll be much worse now. I have long thought of him as another Yankee monument, the only one actually on the field.

    8. redbug
      January 13th, 2013 | 10:15 am

      “Seriously, if his name was anything else but Derek Jeter, how would you feel about that?”

      But his name IS Derek Jeter. He’ll be fine until he’s not.

    9. January 13th, 2013 | 3:42 pm

      Is there ANY chance, if A-Rod does not come back this year, and if Youk is a bust at 3B, and if Jeter’s range does take another step back because of the ankle, that they ask him to play 3B in the second half of ’13 and then they insert a good glove SS in his place?

    10. Raf
      January 13th, 2013 | 4:46 pm

      @ Steve L.:
      It’s all within the realm of possibility. I believe that it will be like Ripken in that Jeter won’t step aside for anyone.

      I find it amazing that Jeter doesn’t have any professional innings anywhere else in the field.

    11. 77yankees
      January 13th, 2013 | 7:31 pm

      In a word, no. The Yanks will go out & get someone to play 3B or play Nunez there if that happens.

      And if Jeter is Joe Namath immobile out there at SS, he’ll DH to stay in the lineup & Nunez will play SS.

    12. January 13th, 2013 | 7:40 pm

      I wonder what the record is for a position player, most games played, all at one position? Of course, with the DH, this is sort of a fluky record now…

    13. LMJ229
      January 13th, 2013 | 11:54 pm

      Let’s be honest, if his name was anything other than Derek Jeter we would all be falling down laughing at the team that planned their roster this way.

      But, his name is Derek Jeter and I, for one, will never count him out. The guy is just too disciplined and too committed to being a positive, winning player. The Yankees are lucky they have guys like that in Jeter, Mariano and Pettitte. It’s like they will themselves to succeed.

    14. LMJ229
      January 13th, 2013 | 11:55 pm

      Joseph Maloney wrote:

      Does it matter? At this point to use one of the most overused phrases of the day, “we’re all in”. The ace closer spent almost all of last season on the DL and he’s 43! The right fielder is 39, Andy is 41 and spent most of last year on the DL. There is no solid plan for catcher, the utility infielder (Nunez) can’t field, AROD is the most expensive ball and chain in history, and the GM doesn’t know baseball talent (and those aren’t my words those are his). I firmly believe the ownership is looking to get out , so a 39 year old shortstop with a bad ankle fits right in. What the team does have is some bullpen talent (other than Mariano), and upper tier starting pitching. That pitching will have to carry the Yanks, it’s really the only on the field asset left. We may not be over the cliff, but we are sure close to the edge.

      Amen!

    15. Raf
      January 14th, 2013 | 12:16 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      I wonder what the record is for a position player, most games played, all at one position? Of course, with the DH, this is sort of a fluky record now…

      It piqued my curiosity, so I checked the career games played leaderboard at B-R. Jeter is 40th, but looking at the other players ahead of him, they’ve all spent time at other positions. Granted, some of them may have made guest appearances elsewhere (for example, Don Mattingly playing 3B), but still; you would think that since 1995 Jeter would’ve seen a game at 2B or 3B or even the OF, even if it was for a defensive inning.

    16. MJ Recanati
      January 14th, 2013 | 9:36 am

      @ Raf:
      According to this link (below), Jeter is third all-time for defensive games at SS, 50 games behind Luis Aparicio and 178 behind the leader (Omar Vizquel). Given Vizquel’s dwindling workload (avg. 72 games/season since 2009), Jeter may end up passing him in a couple of years. He’ll either retire at #1 or #2 for games played at the position, that much we know.

      http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/Gm_ss_career.shtml

    17. Raf
      January 14th, 2013 | 1:34 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Thanks. So from the looks of it, only Jeter (so far) and Aparicio have spent their entire careers at SS.

    18. MJ Recanati
      January 14th, 2013 | 2:24 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Thanks. So from the looks of it, only Jeter (so far) and Aparicio have spent their entire careers at SS.

      Pretty crazy to think that it’s only been done by one guy (and counting) in the 130+ years of baseball history!

      I gotta figure Jeter never plays another defensive position and I also gotta figure that someone in the Yankees stats department knows about this and it’ll be tied into some marketing promotion either in 2014 or 2015 if/when he passes Vizquel.

    19. MJ Recanati
      January 30th, 2013 | 2:06 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      According to this link (below), Jeter is third all-time for defensive games at SS, 50 games behind Luis Aparicio and 178 behind the leader (Omar Vizquel). Given Vizquel’s dwindling workload (avg. 72 games/season since 2009), Jeter may end up passing him in a couple of years. He’ll either retire at #1 or #2 for games played at the position, that much we know.http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/Gm_ss_career.shtml

      I had no idea that Omar Vizquel retired a few months ago (talk about a player leaving the game with no fanfare or attention!). In light of that fact, Jeter will certainly pass Vizquel in the first few weeks of the 2014 season (assuming he plays a full-ish season this year).

      Given how close Jeter is to the milestone of most games played at SS, one has to imagine that the Yankees PR/marketing department will start laying the groundwork as soon as he passes Luis Aparicio for #2 on the list. That’ll be sometime in June…

    20. Raf
      January 30th, 2013 | 5:40 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      I had no idea that Omar Vizquel retired a few months ago (talk about a player leaving the game with no fanfare or attention!).

      Really? He had announced that he was going to retire, and he had his farewell tour. I believe the Jays held a ceremony for him too.

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