• Phil Hughes Last 4 Starts

    Posted by on May 5th, 2013 · Comments (15)

    Here are the numbers:

    BA/OBP/SLG allowed: .225/.259/.333 (facing 108 batters). His ERA is 1.93 (in 28 IP).

    It’s amazing what a carrot on an end of a stick can do, eh?

    Comments on Phil Hughes Last 4 Starts

    1. Evan3457
      May 5th, 2013 | 12:45 pm

      The question then becomes, what do the Yankees do if he keeps this up all year?

      Do they trust him to maintain, and sign him to an expensive 3-5 year deal, and risk him turning back into an expensive, overpaid pumpkin? And risk the money for a pitcher who hasn’t established he can stay healthy for two straight years, or like Carl Pavano, after years of injuries, finally established that he can stay healthy and productive for two straight years?

      Do they let a 26-year old starter coming off an excellent, possibly dominant, season? A starter they spent years and years developing, only to finally see him become the pitcher they envisioned in his final year of team control?

      This choice is 6 months away. But if it happens, what should they do?

    2. May 5th, 2013 | 3:37 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      This choice is 6 months away. But if it happens, what should they do?

      Let him walk.

    3. McMillan
      May 5th, 2013 | 4:41 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      It’s amazing what a carrot on an end of a stick can do, eh?

      For the dog at second base as well.

    4. Corey
      May 5th, 2013 | 7:06 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      Steve L. wrote:
      It’s amazing what a carrot on an end of a stick can do, eh?
      For the dog at second base as well.

      you are crazy haha. why do you even watch the team? cano is awesome and you shoild enjoy it while it lasts.

    5. McMillan
      May 5th, 2013 | 7:20 pm

      @ Corey:
      Cano is a dog. And they should have traded him for comparable talent that gives 100% on the field. But then again, this G.M. is not capable of such a transaction. He’s a dog, and I’m going to call him on it; I don’t enjoy watching talent like his wasted.

    6. Ricketson
      May 5th, 2013 | 7:57 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      This choice is 6 months away. But if it happens, what should they do?

      Let him walk.

    7. Evan3457
      May 5th, 2013 | 8:38 pm

      Let him walk. OK. So be it. You’ve made your judgement 5 months before it has to be made. If the Yanks follow through, live with the consequences, good or bad.

      ==============================================
      What’s my answer, then? What it usually is: I don’t know.

      It is interesting that Hughes finally brought his slider out of mothballs. It was considered a plus-plus pitch when he was a wee young’un, but as I recall, the Yanks made him shelve because they were afraid he would damage his arm.

      But now, maybe he’s risking it for a big contact..

    8. MJ Recanati
      May 6th, 2013 | 9:01 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      BA/OBP/SLG allowed: .225/.259/.333 (facing 108 batters). His ERA is 1.93 (in 28 IP).
      It’s amazing what a carrot on an end of a stick can do, eh?

      Are you suggesting that Hughes has never pitched as well as he’s pitching now? If so, that’s not accurate.

      I found a five start (34 IP) stretch in 2010 when Hughes’s ERA was 1.06, where opponents were batting .164/.222/.181 (126 BF).

      I also found a five start (33.2 IP) stretch in 2012 when Hughes’s ERA was 2.67, where opponents were batting .226/.273/.419 (132 BF).

      The point is simply that Hughes’s performance in 2013 isn’t necessarily influenced by his contract status any more than in 2010 or 2012. He’s always possessed talent but, as with any mid-rotation starter, consistency is always the variable.

      Do the Yankees sign Hughes? Too soon to worry about it. Let his performance dictate the answer to that question.

    9. Evan3457
      May 6th, 2013 | 7:01 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Do the Yankees sign Hughes? Too soon to worry about it. Let his performance dictate the answer to that question.

      Bingo.

      Why make the decision before all evidence is in? Suppose he establishes a new ceiling for himself?

    10. Raf
      June 19th, 2013 | 9:40 pm

      So much for that…

    11. Ricketson
      June 21st, 2013 | 1:17 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      I also found a five start (33.2 IP) stretch in 2012 when Hughes’s ERA was 2.67, where opponents were batting .226/.273/.419 (132 BF).

      I found a six-week stretch in 2012 when Hughes did not give up one (1)earned run: Jan. 1, 2012 – Feb. 15, 2012.
      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Do the Yankees sign Hughes? Too soon to worry about it. Let his performance dictate the answer to that question.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Why make the decision before all evidence is in? Suppose he establishes a new ceiling for himself?

      Agreed. Hughes has pitched for the team at the Major League level since only 2007; Cashman should probably sign Hughes to a 1-year contract for 2014, and make the decision at the end of next year…

    12. McMillan
      September 28th, 2013 | 2:12 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Do the Yankees sign Hughes? Too soon to worry about it. Let his performance dictate the answer to that question.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Bingo.

      Why make the decision before all evidence is in? Suppose he establishes a new ceiling for himself?

      Good call.

    13. Evan3457
      September 28th, 2013 | 6:37 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      MJ Recanati wrote:
      Do the Yankees sign Hughes? Too soon to worry about it. Let his performance dictate the answer to that question.
      Evan3457 wrote:
      Bingo.
      Why make the decision before all evidence is in? Suppose he establishes a new ceiling for himself?
      Good call.

      Yes, I thought so.

    14. Kamieniecki
      October 23rd, 2013 | 10:52 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      “Good pitching stops good hitting” is a long-standing baseball bromide. But it’s really, “Good pitching stops good hitting, except when it doesn’t.”

      “Phil Hughes does not stop good hitting” is a long-standing baseball bromide. But it’s really, “Phil Hughes does not stop good hitting, except when he does not stop good hitting.”

    15. McMillan
      October 27th, 2013 | 8:57 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Bingo.

      Why make the decision [on trading Hughes in May, 2013] before all evidence is in? Suppose he establishes a new ceiling for himself?

      McMillan wrote:

      @ Evan3457:

      Good call.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      @ McMillan:

      Yes, I thought so.

      Mr. October wrote:

      Hughes’ season was so poor that the Yankees are unable to give him a qualifying offer of $14.1 million out of fear he would take it. Thus, [Cashman] will not receive a draft pick when Hughes leaves.

      http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/66312/hughes-to-sd-not-so-fast

      @ Evan3457:

      Think again…

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