• Over-The-Hill Yankees Have Nothing In The Pipeline?

    Posted by on July 2nd, 2013 · Comments (7)

    Via Joel Sherman today –

    By now you know the Yankees’ age and injuries have been blamed for everything short of global warming, and the Yankees are feeling the stings of a roster overly dependent on 30- and 40-somethings.

    But what is hard to ignore when the Yankees are playing, say, the Orioles, is the disparity in 20-something excellence. Here is Baltimore with Chris Davis, Manny Machado, Adam Jones, Matt Wieters, Nick Markakis, etc., and here are the Yankees with, well, Brett Gardner, who turns 30 next month, and David Robertson.

    In fact, it is arguable that the Yankees have less 20-something talent than any AL East team. Which bodes poorly over a long season in a sport with stricter drug testing. But also — more importantly — it bodes poorly for the near future.

    Some of this is about not drafting high enough over the last two decades to get a shot at players such as Machado and Wieters. But some of this is about not drafting well, overevaluation, underperformance, injury and other factors.

    This has left the Yankees without a position prospect of merit at Triple-A at this moment of lineup crisis for the big team while pitching hopefuls such as Dellin Betances, Brett Marshall and Mark Montgomery have regressed. For a team looking to get younger and cheaper — with an eye on dropping under the $189 million luxury-tax threshold next year — that will be nearly impossible without major contributions from the system.

    Think Brian Cashman will tell Joel to shut the bleep up?

    Comments on Over-The-Hill Yankees Have Nothing In The Pipeline?

    1. Scout
      July 2nd, 2013 | 9:23 am

      Many of us who have been watching the Yankee minor league system over the years would agree with Sherman. I do think J.R. Murphy has emerged this season as a better prospect than I thought, but that is still slim pickings for a triple A team. For those who think the Yankees should be considering “reloading” with youth, Sherman’s words are a sobering reminder that the ammunition supply consists mostly of blanks. And, yes, Cashman has been in charge of the system since about 2005.

    2. Evan3457
      July 2nd, 2013 | 11:59 am

      No, but I’ll point out the following:

      Machado was the 3rd pick. Yanks would’ve had to have lost 100 games in 2009 to get a chance to draft him.
      Wieters was the 5th pick. Yanks would’ve had to have lost 93 games in 2006 to get a chance to choose him.
      Markakis was the 7th pick. Yanks would’ve had to have lost 96 games in 2002 to get a chance to select him.

      Jones came as the result of a salary dump deal (Bedard); the Yanks never do that, and are almost never in a position to do that. Well, maybe this year…

      Davis was traded with Hunter, for Koji Uehara. At the moment, the trade looks like a blunder for the GM that made the deal…who is another of the GMs regarded as a genius: Jon Daniels of Texas. And while it wasn’t a salary dump deal, it was the dealing of a valuable veteran piece for younger players, something the Yanks don’t do.

      The Yanks tend to keep every productive veteran who isn’t screwing with the team. When the Yanks deal a veteran, it’s because he’s performing terribly or is a clubhouse cancer or both at the same time. You’re not often going to get much of real value if you do that.

    3. MJ Recanati
      July 2nd, 2013 | 2:07 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      No, but I’ll point out the following:Machado was the 3rd pick. Yanks would’ve had to have lost 100 games in 2009 to get a chance to draft him.
      Wieters was the 5th pick. Yanks would’ve had to have lost 93 games in 2006 to get a chance to choose him.
      Markakis was the 7th pick. Yanks would’ve had to have lost 96 games in 2002 to get a chance to select him.Jones came as the result of a salary dump deal (Bedard); the Yanks never do that, and are almost never in a position to do that. Well, maybe this year…Davis was traded with Hunter, for Koji Uehara. At the moment, the trade looks like a blunder for the GM that made the deal…who is another of the GMs regarded as a genius: Jon Daniels of Texas. And while it wasn’t a salary dump deal, it was the dealing of a valuable veteran piece for younger players, something the Yanks don’t do. The Yanks tend to keep every productive veteran who isn’t screwing with the team. When the Yanks deal a veteran, it’s because he’s performing terribly or is a clubhouse cancer or both at the same time. You’re not often going to get much of real value if you do that.

      Too much context and nuance for Joel Sherman to understand.

    4. Ricketson
      July 2nd, 2013 | 2:57 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Too much context and nuance for Joel Sherman to understand.

      Agreed. Sherman doesn’t even seem to know that the plan to drop below the $189 million luxury-tax threshold next year has been abandoned…

    5. Scout
      July 2nd, 2013 | 3:45 pm

      Ricketson wrote:

      Sherman doesn’t even seem to know that the plan to drop below the $189 million luxury-tax threshold next year has been abandoned…

      Has it, though? There was some talk about abandoning the plan, but certainly no official confirmation.

    6. Evan3457
      July 2nd, 2013 | 11:02 pm

      Scout wrote:

      Ricketson wrote:
      Sherman doesn’t even seem to know that the plan to drop below the $189 million luxury-tax threshold next year has been abandoned…
      Has it, though? There was some talk about abandoning the plan, but certainly no official confirmation.

      It hasn’t. Yet.

    7. Raf
      July 2nd, 2013 | 11:10 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Too much context and nuance for Joel Sherman to understand.

      Won’t get his column linked either :P

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