• Yankees Win Totals After 95 Games In The Cashman Autonomy Era

    Posted by on July 16th, 2013 · Comments (10)

    Here’s how many wins the Yankees had, after 95 games played, in each of the last 8 seasons:

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    It’s an interesting picture.  Once Brian Cashman got full control of the Yankees, the win totals went really down in 2007 and 2008.  Then, for the 2009 season, he went out and spent a half-billion dollars to get a bunch of players.  And, that worked for 2009 and a few years after.  But, now, it’s back down to 2007-2008 level again this season.  And, we know the Yankees are not going to spend a ton of money in this upcoming off-season.  So, what does that mean for 2014?

    Comments on Yankees Win Totals After 95 Games In The Cashman Autonomy Era

    1. MJ Recanati
      July 16th, 2013 | 10:50 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      It’s an interesting picture. Once Brian Cashman got full control of the Yankees, the win totals went really down in 2007 and 2008. Then, for the 2009 season, he went out and spent a half-billion dollars to get a bunch of players. And, that worked for 2009 and a few years after. But, now, it’s back down to 2007-2008 level again this season. And, we know the Yankees are not going to spend a ton of money in this upcoming off-season. So, what does that mean for 2014?

      The 2007 Yankees tied for the second best record in the majors that year and only finished three wins behind their MLB-best 97 wins from the previous year. Way to spin an intellectually dishonest yarn though.

    2. July 16th, 2013 | 11:33 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      The 2007 Yankees tied for the second best record in the majors that year and only finished three wins behind their MLB-best 97 wins from the previous year.

      We seem to have different memories of the same team. When I think about the 2007 Yankees, I see a team that finished 2nd, got fat in the win column by beating a bunch of teams in September who already packed up for the season, and then got a foot shoved up their rear in the ALDS by a Cleveland Indians team who had no business beating them.

    3. MJ Recanati
      July 16th, 2013 | 12:16 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      We seem to have different memories of the same team. When I think about the 2007 Yankees, I see a team that finished 2nd, got fat in the win column by beating a bunch of teams in September who already packed up for the season, and then got a foot shoved up their rear in the ALDS by a Cleveland Indians team who had no business beating them.

      Yankees went 94-68 with a Pythagorean record of 97-65. They had a poor April (9-14) and an uneven May (13-15) and then went 72-39 from June 1st until the end of the year. It’s hard to argue that they only beat a bunch of teams in September when they won 65% of their games over the final four months of the season and only missed out on the division title by two games.

      Losing to the Indians in the ALDS was disappointing, especially since the Yankees were definitely the better team that year. That’s what happens, though, when you’re in a short series and your best pitcher throughout the season pitches to a 19.06 ERA in 5.2 innings over two starts. A little bit of bad luck with the swarm of gnats in Game 2 (and Torre not pulling the team off the field) didn’t help but Wang really sank the team’s chances to advance to the ALCS that year.

    4. Ricketson
      July 16th, 2013 | 5:59 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Losing to the Indians in the ALDS was disappointing, especially since the Yankees were definitely the better team that year. That’s what happens, though, when you’re in a short series and your best pitcher throughout the season pitches to a 19.06 ERA in 5.2 innings over two starts. A little bit of bad luck with the swarm of gnats in Game 2 (and Torre not pulling the team off the field) didn’t help but Wang really sank the team’s chances to advance to the ALCS that year.

      “A swarm of gnats?” That’s why John Cashman’s son doesn’t have a second ring despite $230-235 million payrolls from 2005-13? Because of a “swarm of gnats?” A new low.

    5. Mr. October
      July 16th, 2013 | 6:48 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Wang really sank the team’s chances to advance to the ALCS that year.

      How did Igawa help the team’s chances to advance to the ALCS that year? Pavano?

      Cashman had spent $85.95 million on the rotation in the form of Igawa and Pavano, but we’re going to blame the season’s failure on a pitcher that went 19-7 for the regular season and a swarm of gnats. Way to spin an intellectually dishonest yarn.

      Steve L. wrote:

      And, we know the Yankees are not going to spend a ton of money in this upcoming off-season.  So, what does that mean for 2014?

      It means start looking to 2015 and beyond.

    6. MJ Recanati
      July 17th, 2013 | 9:19 am

      Mr. October wrote:

      we’re going to blame the season’s failure on a pitcher that went 19-7 for the regular season and a swarm of gnats. Way to spin an intellectually dishonest yarn.

      Nothing dishonest about it. Wang was very solid in the regular season but was off in that year’s postseason. He only gave up 9 HR in 199 IP that year but somehow gave up 3 in just 5.2 innings in the playoffs.

      Pavano and Igawa are strawmen; they have nothing to do with why the Yankees lost to the Indians in the ’07 ALDS.

    7. Evan3457
      July 17th, 2013 | 12:28 pm

      So, what does that mean for 2014?

      It means that they need to use the very large amount of money coming off the books well. Or they’ll have a bad year.

    8. Raf
      July 17th, 2013 | 1:23 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Nothing dishonest about it. Wang was very solid in the regular season but was off in that year’s postseason. He only gave up 9 HR in 199 IP that year but somehow gave up 3 in just 5.2 innings in the playoffs.
      Pavano and Igawa are strawmen; they have nothing to do with why the Yankees lost to the Indians in the ’07 ALDS.

      Yeah, Igawa & Pavano didn’t go 0-2, 19.06 in the ALDS. FWIW, fan favorite Phil Hughes went 1-0, 1.59. Torre should’ve started him instead :P

    9. McMillan
      July 17th, 2013 | 3:43 pm

      Trivia Question: Who is the first G.M. in M.L.B. history to have a $231 million team in fourth place at the All-Star Break?

      Hint: the year was 2013.

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Nothing dishonest about it. Wang was very solid in the regular season but was off in that year’s postseason. He only gave up 9 HR in 199 IP that year but somehow gave up 3 in just 5.2 innings in the playoffs.

      So what? A lot of pitchers have been very solid in the regular season but off in one or two performances in the postseason; and Wang was pitching on three days rest in Game 4.

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Pavano and Igawa are strawmen; they have nothing to do with why the Yankees lost to the Indians in the ’07 ALDS.

      If a better pitcher than Igawa or Pavano had been acquired with the $85.95 million, it’s possible that pitcher wins Game 4 with Wang coming back with more rest in Game 5: the bulls–t, hypotheticals, and whining work in a number of different directions, and not only for one team or fan base.

      Why did the Yankees lose to the Indians in the ’07 ALDS? They were beaten; it’s that simple.

      If the team had a better G.M., it probably would have fielded a better team and won; better teams win most of the time in the postseason.

    10. MJ Recanati
      July 17th, 2013 | 4:15 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      So what? A lot of pitchers have been very solid in the regular season but off in one or two performances in the postseason; and Wang was pitching on three days rest in Game 4.

      No one was arguing to the contrary.

      McMillan wrote:

      If a better pitcher than Igawa or Pavano had been acquired with the $85.95 million, it’s possible that pitcher wins Game 4 with Wang coming back with more rest in Game 5

      Wang was dreadful in Game 1 and I don’t think it was the short rest that did him in for Game 4.

      McMillan wrote:

      Why did the Yankees lose to the Indians in the ’07 ALDS? They were beaten; it’s that simple.

      Again, no one argued to the contrary. The Yankees were the better team throughout that 2007 season (and even beat Cleveland in each of their six regular season meetings) but didn’t perform up to their capabilities in that playoff matchup. As you said, they were beaten

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