• Yankees Offense May 25th Through July 24th 2013

    Posted by on July 25th, 2013 · Comments (21)

    In their last 54 games, the Yankees have a collective team BA/OBA/SLG line of .235/.300/.331 (over 1,993 PA). Over this span, they have averaged 3.5 runs per game. A Triple-A team could do better than that, right?

    Seriously, a two-thirty-five batting average? A slugging percentage of three-thirty-one?

    Comments on Yankees Offense May 25th Through July 24th 2013

    1. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 8:58 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      A Triple-A team could do better than that, right?

      No, not likely.

    2. July 25th, 2013 | 9:04 am

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Yeah, I should have qualified that…

      A Triple-A team with a spoonful of talent.

      And, we know that’s not the case with the Yankees.

    3. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 9:07 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Yeah, I should have qualified that…A Triple-A team with a spoonful of talent.

      Again, not likely. Unless you know of a Triple-A team in someone else’s system that has 13-14 position players that all belong in the majors.

    4. July 25th, 2013 | 9:09 am

      Seriously… .235/.300/.331?

      A team of CC Sabathia’s could probably out hit that.

    5. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 9:18 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Seriously… .235/.300/.331?A team of CC Sabathia’s could probably out hit that.

      You’re honestly embarrassing yourself here. Stop.

      A team of major league pitchers could not put up .235/.300/.331 over 2,000 PA’s.

    6. July 25th, 2013 | 9:43 am

      @ MJ Recanati:
      So, you think the Yankees offense over this period is big league stuff?

    7. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 10:26 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      So, you think the Yankees offense over this period is big league stuff?

      Did I say it was? It’s a putrid offense, worse than anything we’ve seen since the late 60′s or early 70′s as Yankees fans, and it’s among the worst in the majors this year (if not the worst).

      That all being said, it’s absurd to think that a team of Triple-A players — or major league pitchers, for that matter — would do better. If the Yankees offense is terrible, a team of only Triple-A hitters (or pitchers) would make terrible look like a picnic on a sunny day.

    8. July 25th, 2013 | 10:50 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Steve L. wrote:
      So, you think the Yankees offense over this period is big league stuff?
      Did I say it was? It’s a putrid offense, worse than anything we’ve seen since the late 60′s or early 70′s as Yankees fans, and it’s among the worst in the majors this year (if not the worst).
      That all being said, it’s absurd to think that a team of Triple-A players — or major league pitchers, for that matter — would do better. If the Yankees offense is terrible, a team of only Triple-A hitters (or pitchers) would make terrible look like a picnic on a sunny day.

      Isn’t WAR a measure of what replacement players would do? Who are those replacement players if not AAA guys?

    9. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 11:45 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Isn’t WAR a measure of what replacement players would do? Who are those replacement players if not AAA guys?

      Do Cano and Gardner strike you as replacement players?

    10. July 25th, 2013 | 11:56 am

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Here’s the point. If WAR is average, and the “R” in WAR is AAA players, then a team hitting as shitty as the Yankees must be negative-WAR, and, therefore, Triple-A players must be as good as that or not better, right?

    11. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 1:57 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Here’s the point. If WAR is average, and the “R” in WAR is AAA players, then a team hitting as shitty as the Yankees must be negative-WAR, and, therefore, Triple-A players must be as good as that or not better, right?

      You’ve lost me if you believe there’s some mythical Triple-A team out there in baseball that would outhit the Yankees as presently constituted.

    12. July 25th, 2013 | 2:57 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      You’ve lost me if you believe there’s some mythical Triple-A team out there in baseball that would outhit the Yankees as presently constituted.

      Sans Cano and Gardner, isn’t that what the Yankees are throwing out there these days, a bunch of guys not ready for prime time or past their prime? That’s Triple-A material, no?

    13. Kamieniecki
      July 25th, 2013 | 3:42 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Sans Cano and Gardner, isn’t that what the Yankees are throwing out there these days, a bunch of guys not ready for prime time or past their prime?

      With the exception of Cano and Gardner, they were throwing a bunch of guys past their primes out there before the injuries.

    14. July 25th, 2013 | 3:46 pm

      Kamieniecki wrote:

      With the exception of Cano and Gardner, they were throwing a bunch of guys past their primes out there before the injuries.

      Word.

    15. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 4:00 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Sans Cano and Gardner,

      But they’re not sans Cano and Gardner. That’s the point.

      Steve L. wrote:

      kees are throwing out there these days, a bunch of guys not ready for prime time or past their prime? That’s Triple-A material, no?

      Lillibridge, Adams, Mesa, and Romine are clearly Triple-A guys. Perhaps Nunez too, though we’ve seen him hit better than this in the past.

      Wells and Overbay — especially Wells — are past-their-prime players. They are both slightly better than replacement level.

      Ichiro, Cano, and Gardner (though he’s not starting today) are definitely not Triple-A guys.

    16. MJ Recanati
      July 25th, 2013 | 4:03 pm

      Kamieniecki wrote:

      they were throwing a bunch of guys past their primes out there before the injuries.

      2012 bWAR:

      Teixeira – 3.9
      Granderson – 3.0
      Jeter – 2.2
      Rodriguez – 2.3

      Past their primes, maybe. Replacement level, no.

    17. Tuttle
      July 25th, 2013 | 4:09 pm

      Kamieniecki wrote:

      With the exception of Cano and Gardner, they were throwing a bunch of guys past their primes out there before the injuries.

      Word + 1

    18. July 25th, 2013 | 4:29 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      But they’re not sans Cano and Gardner. That’s the point.

      Two players do not a team make. The point, actually, is, even with Cano and Gardner, collectively, as a team, they stink.

      You could put Babe Ruth and Willie Mays on the 1962 Mets, but, that wouldn’t make them a great team.

    19. Tuttle
      July 25th, 2013 | 4:35 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      The point, actually, is, even with Cano and Gardner, collectively, as a team, they stink.

      Even with Jeter, and Rodriguez sans anabolic steroids, they’re not much better.

    20. Kamieniecki
      July 25th, 2013 | 4:54 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Granderson – 3.0

      364 k’s last 2 years.
      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Jeter – 2.2

      Significant difference between the 2012 and 2013 versions of Jeter with age and a serious injuries.
      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Rodriguez – 2.3

      Declining numbers for years.

      WELL past their primes.

    21. MJ Recanati
      July 26th, 2013 | 8:35 am

      @ Kamieniecki:

      Re-read what I wrote:

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Past their primes, maybe. Replacement level, no.

      Even your qualifier that they’re WELL past their primes doesn’t invalidate that they’re not yet replacement level, or weren’t in 2012, anyway.

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