• A-Rod The Victim?

    Posted by on August 2nd, 2013 · Comments (10)

    William C. Rhoden feels sorry for A-Rod.

    I guess there are people out there who feel bad for Anthony Weiner, Riley Cooper and Bernie Madoff too.

    Comments on A-Rod The Victim?

    1. MJ Recanati
      August 2nd, 2013 | 10:10 am

      Not quite what Rhoden is saying here.

      I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that due process should be afforded to all, even those that are clearly guilty. Madoff certainly got his due process; so, too, should Rodriguez.

      Weiner and Cooper are poor examples in that they aren’t subject to any legal or disciplinary proceedings. They’re being judged for their mistakes in the court of public opinion which is altogether different.

    2. August 2nd, 2013 | 10:23 am

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Bottom line, A-Rod made his own bed here…just as the others mentioned did. It was their actions which put them into the trouble spotlight. And, to suggest that they are then being bullied, when it’s time to face the music, and imply that they could be seen as a victim, is a joke.

    3. MJ Recanati
      August 2nd, 2013 | 10:28 am

      @ Steve L.:
      To suggest that Rodriguez isn’t being bullied is the joke. That he made his bed is true and isn’t in dispute by me or anyone else. The point is in how baseball chooses to deal with him. Give him his due process as it was collectively bargained for by both sides.

      Offering him either a 220 game suspension or a lifetime ban is hardly giving him his due process.

    4. August 2nd, 2013 | 10:33 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Offering him either a 220 game suspension or a lifetime ban is hardly giving him his due process.

      Again, he made his bed. He got caught, said it was a one time thing, that it was terribly wrong, it was stupid, and that it would never happen again. And, then, he went and did it anyway. Plus, he reportedly impeded on the investigation. That makes him very different than some others in this web. And, he – or anyone else – shouldn’t bellyache about how he is being handled here. Also, don’t forget, he’s not without other sins. Baseball is still probably pissed about him playing in illegal poker games.

    5. MJ Recanati
      August 2nd, 2013 | 10:45 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Plus, he reportedly impeded on the investigation. That makes him very different than some others in this web.

      Melky Cabrera and his agent set up a fake website to give the appearance that the substances which came up in his urine test were purchased from someplace other than Biogenesis. This fact was apparently not considered when Selig handed down his by-the-book 50-game suspension.

      Again, no one is disputing that Rodriguez “made his bed.” That doesn’t mean that we can trample on the rights of those who violate laws, agreements, etc. Rodriguez will get a punishment because he seems to have violated baseball’s drug policy but getting a punishment three times as long as the next guy isn’t bellyaching, it’s a legitimate complaint.

      The ACLU may be a group of annoying people but they do have one fundamental point: all people, regardless of whether we like them or not, and regardless of the extent and heinousness of their crimes, deserve due process.

    6. G.I. Joey
      August 2nd, 2013 | 10:49 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:
      The ACLU may be a group of annoying people but they do have one fundamental point: all people, regardless of whether we like them or not, and regardless of the extent and heinousness of their crimes, deserve due process.

      Right on the money.

    7. MJ Recanati
      August 2nd, 2013 | 10:50 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Also, don’t forget, he’s not without other sins. Baseball is still probably pissed about him playing in illegal poker games.

      Out of scope but, to my point, you can’t ban him for life for drugs just because you’re mad at other things.

      Also, really…BFD, he plays cards. One of my very best friends plays in underground poker rooms every single week. Hundreds — probably thousands — do too in New York.

      Unless there is evidence that Rodriguez bet on baseball or threw games to pay off gambling debts then this is just drivel. Rodriguez could just as easily be playing in poker tournaments for millions of dollars in the “high roller” room at the Borgata or Wynn. The people he’d be playing with there would be no more or less shady than the ones he played with in those poker rooms in NYC.

    8. August 2nd, 2013 | 2:33 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      FWIW, this was in the Post today:

      Baseball views A-Rod’s purported transgressions as considerably more serious than those of his fellow suspects — he’s accused of obstructing MLB’s investigation as well as purchasing illegal performance-enhancing drugs each of the four prior seasons — and therefore his situation is more complicated.

    9. MJ Recanati
      August 2nd, 2013 | 3:23 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Baseball views A-Rod’s purported transgressions as considerably more serious than those of his fellow suspects — he’s accused of obstructing MLB’s investigation as well as purchasing illegal performance-enhancing drugs each of the four prior seasons — and therefore his situation is more complicated.

      I don’t dispute that we’re dealing with two separate (but connected) issues here and that both, if true, would merit punishment.

      My point in bringing up Melky is that he did his own version of impeding an investigation. Nevertheless, the by-the-book 50 game suspension.

      Braun was connected to Biogenesis and had actually tested positive (though the positive test was thrown out). 65 games.

      You want to hit Rodriguez for 65 games for PED use and another 50 for impeding the investigation? Fine with me. That’s a fair and sensible punishment, relative to what others have done. You want to make it 150 games? Probably steeper than I think necessary but at least there’s a logic to it — 50 for the PED use, 50 for impeding the investigation, and 50 for lying to Selig in previous interrogatories about PED use.

      220 games or lifetime ban? That’s not reasonable.

    10. redbug
      August 2nd, 2013 | 5:20 pm

      I think Selig threatened them all w/ a lot more than they will accept, including Arod. Think Selig said “How about 65?” to Braun?

      He’s using the lifetime to try to get Arod to the table. However, Arod has so many high paid lawyers and advisors just tasting all the money they make dragging this out, I doubt they’re giving him good advice.

      Plus Arod is obviously afraid to accept any of this. All his dreams are shot through hell.

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