• Let The Dellin Betances Hype Begin!

    Posted by on August 11th, 2013 · Comments (15)

    Hey, what ever happened to Humberto Sanchez and Jonathan Albaladejo?

    Comments on Let The Dellin Betances Hype Begin!

    1. Tuttle
      August 11th, 2013 | 1:21 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Tuttle wrote:
      Hey, what ever happened to Humberto Sanchez and Jonathan Albaladejo?

      Those were “Lonn Trost” moves…

    2. redbug
      August 12th, 2013 | 6:25 am

      Joe had Joba warming for the 10th yesterday. Maybe it’s due to hype, but I would’ve preferred Beltances in that situation.

    3. MJ Recanati
      August 12th, 2013 | 10:05 am

      Steve L. wrote:

      Hey, what ever happened to Humberto Sanchez and Jonathan Albaladejo?

      Betances is a first rounder, the other two were 31st and 19th rounds, respectively. Not really a good point of comparison.

    4. MJ Recanati
      August 12th, 2013 | 10:07 am

      @ Steve L.:
      Why the snark towards Betances? That he could be a very good bullpen arm is something to be upset about?

    5. Evan3457
      August 12th, 2013 | 10:11 am

      He’s still having trouble with his command. 10 BB in his last 17 1/3 innings. So the ride will be very bumpy at times.

      Still he wouldn’t be the 1st round draft choice with a powerful arm to fail at starting and become a highly successful reliever. We’ll see.

    6. Evan3457
      August 12th, 2013 | 10:12 am

      “first 1st round draft choice”. Sigh.

      Steve, how much extra would an edit button cost?

      I know, I know; you get what you pay for.

    7. August 12th, 2013 | 10:44 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Why the snark towards Betances?

      Not towards him – more towards Cashman and crew for touting him and the other “B” as the rotation studs of the future…and, now, he’s just another RP, at best.

      @ Evan3457:
      LOL. I don’t even know if there is an edit button option?

    8. MJ Recanati
      August 12th, 2013 | 12:19 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Not towards him – more towards Cashman and crew for touting him and the other “B” as the rotation studs of the future…and, now, he’s just another RP, at best.

      The whole “touting” thing has always been your strawman argument.

      What difference does it make if he were “touted” or not? The only thing that matters is if he can help the club. If he winds up being a valuable relief arm for the next few seasons, that’s a good thing.

    9. August 12th, 2013 | 1:19 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      What difference does it make if he were “touted” or not?

      It shows the failure in the Yankees front office.
      Don’t proclaim the guy to be the next Roger Clemens when he’s only got the goods to be the next Kyle Kendrick

    10. MJ Recanati
      August 12th, 2013 | 1:54 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Don’t proclaim the guy to be the next Roger Clemens when he’s only got the goods to be the next Kyle Kendrick

      Who in the Yankees front office proclaimed him as such?

      Moreover, assuming they did proclaim him the next Clemens, what difference does that make? Because you got your hopes up? A team’s front office needs “truth in advertising” now so that you don’t have bruised feelings?

    11. G.I. Joey
      August 12th, 2013 | 2:20 pm

      Aren’t prospects always a gamble no matter when they were drafted? If a player is perceived to have a high ceiling, isn’t the organization that drafted him going to hope he hits that ceiling and “tout” them as such. Keeps their trade value high too, no?

    12. Evan3457
      August 12th, 2013 | 2:30 pm

      G.I. Joey wrote:

      Aren’t prospects always a gamble no matter when they were drafted?

      Oh, I wouldn’t say that around here…the Brien Taylor fan club might get angry with you.

    13. Mr. October
      August 12th, 2013 | 3:37 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Oh, I wouldn’t say that around here…the Brien Taylor fan club might get angry with you.

      This is just a hunch, but I don’t think G.I. Joey was referring to a gamble that a draft pick might not perform to a certain level of expectation or potential OR might suffer a career-ending injury in an offseason accident; I think he might have been referring to a gamble that a draft pick might not perform to a certain level of expectation or potential ONLY. Again, it’s only a hunch.

      Were Sam Bowie and Len Bias both “busts” in the N.B.A. draft, or is it possible a distinction should be made between the two?

    14. Evan3457
      August 12th, 2013 | 3:51 pm

      Mr. October wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      Were Sam Bowie and Len Bias both “busts” in the N.B.A. draft, or is it possible a distinction should be made between the two?

      I have no problem with that.
      I interpret what Joey said to mean that all draft picks carry risk. I believe, but cannot prove, that the risk in an MLB Rule 4 first pick of the draft is higher than that of the NBA Draft.

      As for Bias and Taylor, both unfortunate, but the action of both help precipitate their bad luck. The Celtics may have known about Bias’ cocaine use; the Yankees had no way of knowing Taylor would defend his brother by seeking his brother’s attacker out and confronting him. But I would say both “busts” were unfortunate for the respective teams.

    15. Mr. October
      August 15th, 2013 | 5:16 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      Steve, how much extra would an edit button cost?

      An edit button would be an unworkable solution – people can’t be trusted not to “deceptively” edit their comments…

      Evan3457 wrote:

      But I would say both “busts” were unfortunate for the respective teams.

      It might be safe to say a little bit more unfortunate for Boston…

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